On Fri, 2021-05-28 at 16:11 +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:58:10AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:

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On Thu, 2021-05-27 at 15:29 +0200, Greg KH wrote:

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On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 03:23:03PM +0200, Christoph Lameter
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2021, Theodore Ts'o wrote:

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I know we're all really hungry for some in-person meetups and
discussions, but at least for LPC, Kernel Summit, and
Maintainer's Summit, we're going to have to wait for another
year,

Well now that we are vaccinated: Can we still change it?

Speak for yourself, remember that Europe and other parts of the
world are not as "flush" with vaccines as the US currently is :(

The rollout is accelerating in Europe.  At least in Germany, I know
people younger than me are already vaccinated.  I think by the end
of September the situation will be better ... especially if the EU
and US agree on this air bridge (and the US actually agrees to let
EU people in).

One of the things Plumbers is thinking of is having a meetup at
what was OSS EU but which is now in Seattle.  The Maintainer's
summit could do the same thing.  We couldn't actually hold Plumbers
in Seattle because the hotels still had masks and distancing
requirements for events that effectively precluded the
collaborative aspects of microconferences, but evening events will
be governed by local protocols, rather than the Hotel, which are
already more relaxed.

Umm.  Let's remember that the vaccines are 33-93% effective [1],
which means that there's approximately a 100% certainty that at least
one person arriving at the event from a trans-atlantic flight has
been exposed to someone who has the virus.  I'm not convinced that
holding a "more relaxed protocol" event is a great idea.

Well, I'm not going to get into a debate over the effectiveness of the
current vaccines.  I will say that all conferences have to now
recognize that a sizeable proportion of former attendees will have
fears about travelling and therefore remote components are going to be
a fixture of conferences going forward.

However, while we should accommodate them, we can't let these fears
override people willing to take the risk and meet in person.

James