Thread (18 messages) 18 messages, 3 authors, 2016-02-17

Re: [PATCH 1/5] all: s390: move wrapper infrastructure to generic headers

From: Heiko Carstens <hidden>
Date: 2016-02-02 16:08:50
Also in: linux-arm-kernel, linux-s390, lkml

On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 06:43:31PM +0300, Yury Norov wrote:
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Well, I'd like to have some proof by the compiler or linker that nothing
went wrong. Which seems hard if only selected system call defines will be
converted to the new defines.

How can you tell that nothing has been forgotten?

Also, what happens if the prototype of a system call get's changed shortly
after it was merged. We might miss such changes and have bugs.
As for now, there's no such proof, and everything is OK. Syscall ABI
is extremely conservative, and Greg KH, and other people spent a lot
of efforts to keep it that way. This is the only reason for me to not
worry much about it. Modification of syscall ABI is virtually
impossible now, because it breaks binary compatibility. Even addition
of new syscall is very difficult procedure.
(Documentation/adding-syscalls.txt begins with section "System Call
Alternatives".)
Well... during the years a lot of system calls have been added. And we've
also seen last-minute changes or reverts. So I don't share your optimistic
view here :)

See e.g. 485d52768685 ("sys_personality: change sys_personality() to accept
"unsigned int" instead of u_long") would have been a candidate which could
silently break architectures which need compat wrappers.
We can invent some protection, but it will cost us in complexity and/or
runtime delays. Because syscall ABI is so stable, I think it's OK to
review wrappers carefully once, and they will be fine for long time.
Here I don't agree with you. These interfaces are so important that I'd
like to have a waterproof method that these don't break.  If this involves
a couple of superfluous instructions then that's what I'm willing to pay
for it.
quoted
Before doing that I think you should actually revert this patch: my commit
7681df456f97 ("s390/compat: remove superfluous compat wrappers") probably
wasn't a very bright idea :)
This patch is OK for me. pid_t, uid_t, gid_t, unsigned and signed int
types are all 32-bit both on LP64 and ILP32. Normally, compiler should
care about top halves... Did I miss something?
The patch was correct when writing it, but e.g. a patch like named above
would introduce a possible bug which would go in unnoticed.
The only thing we save is a _single_ unconditional branch here. I'd say
that's well worth it if you get a (hopefully) always bug free sign and zero
extension infrastructure in return.
I don't know much about s390 specifics. Maybe because of that I do not
understand completely your worries. I'm OK with both 1st and 2nd
version, but I'd choose 2nd one because it allows inlines, and we
don't need the compat_wrapper.c.
It would be only nicer if we can guarentee correctness all the time. That
being said I'm about to revert my own commit :)

So if you want to go without compat_wrapper.c then we should have a
solution which will do the right thing all the time without that a system
call author has to know about the sign and zero extension issue some
architectures face. It _will_ go wrong.
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