Thread (95 messages) 95 messages, 18 authors, 2014-09-25

Re: bit fields && data tearing

From: One Thousand Gnomes <hidden>
Date: 2014-09-23 18:40:44
Also in: linux-alpha, linuxppc-dev, lkml

quoted
Yes - because if you think about it that tells you that nobody is hitting
it with the old code and it probably doesn't matter.
I don't understand this reply.
It's a matter of priorities. There are hundreds of potential security
holes turned up by scanners, 2,500+ filed bugs in kernel bugzilla alone.

Which matters more - fixing the bugs people hit or the ones that they
don't and which have a very high cost impact on other users ?
Likewise, I'm pointing that byte-sized circular buffers will also be 
corrupted under certain circumstances (when the head comes near the tail).
Yes. I believe the classic wording is "this problem has not been observed
in the field"
 
2. I'm not sure where you arrived at the conclusion that set_bit() et.al. is
fast on x86. Besides the heavy-duty instructions (lgdt, mov cr0, etc), the
bus-locked bit instructions are among the most expensive instructions in the
kernel.
I've attached a smoke test I use for lightweight validation of pty slave reads.
If you run this smoke test under perf, almost every high-value hit is a
bus-locked bit instruction. Check out canon_copy_from_read_buf() which performs
the actual copy of data from the line discipline input buffer to the __user
buffer; the clear_bit() is the performance hit. Check out cpu_idle_loop()...
And then go and instrument whether its the bit instructions or the cache
misses ?


If there is a significant performance improvement by spacing the fields
carefully, and you don't have other ordering problems as a result
(remembering that the compiler has a lot of re-ordering options provided
the re-ordering cannot be observed)

If that's the case then fine - submit a patch with numbers and the fields
spaced and quote the performance data.

Alan
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