Thread (17 messages) 17 messages, 4 authors, 2022-11-22

Re: [External] Re: [PATCH v2] mm: add new syscall pidfd_set_mempolicy().

From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Date: 2022-11-14 17:53:10
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On Mon 14-11-22 12:46:53, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Mon 14-11-22 12:44:48, Michal Hocko wrote:
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On Mon 14-11-22 00:41:21, Zhongkun He wrote:
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Hi Andrew, thanks for your replay.
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This sounds a bit suspicious.  Please share much more detail about
these races.  If we proced with this design then mpol_put_async()
shouild have comments which fully describe the need for the async free.

How do we *know* that these races are fully prevented with this
approach?  How do we know that mpol_put_async() won't free the data
until the race window has fully passed?
A mempolicy can be either associated with a process or with a VMA.
All vma manipulation is somewhat protected by a down_read on
mmap_lock.In process context there is no locking because only
the process accesses its own state before.
We shouldn't really rely on mmap_sem for this IMO. There is alloc_lock
(aka task lock) that makes sure the policy is stable so that caller can
atomically take a reference and hold on the policy. And we do not do
that consistently and this should be fixed. E.g. just looking at some
random places like allowed_mems_nr (relying on get_task_policy) is
completely lockless and some paths (like fadvise) do not use any of the
explicit (alloc_lock) or implicit (mmap_lock) locking. That means that
the task_work based approach cannot really work in this case, right?
Just to be more explicit. Task work based approach still requires an
additional synchronization among different threads unless I miss
something so this is really fragile synchronization model.
Scratch that. I've managed to confuse myself. Multi-threading doesn't
play any role as the mempolicy changed by the syscall is per-task_struct
so task_work context is indeed mutually exclusive with any in kernel use
of the policy.

I will need to think about it some more.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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