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Re: [RFC] Get siginfo from unreaped task

From: Robert Święcki <hidden>
Date: 2022-02-14 22:09:08
Also in: linux-hardening, lkml

pon., 14 lut 2022 o 21:07 Kees Cook [off-list ref] napisał(a):
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I had a kind of opposite thought, which is that it would be very nice
to be able to get all the waitid() data without reaping a process or
even necessarily being its parent.  Maybe these can be combined?  A
new waitid() option like you’re suggesting could add siginfo (and
might need permissions).  And we could have a different waitid() flag
that says “maybe not my child, don’t reap” (and also needs
permissions).

Although the “don’t reap” thing is fundamentally racy. What a sane
process manager actually wants is an interface to read all this info
from a pidfd, which means it all needs to get stuck in struct pid. And
/me briefly pops out from vacation

Agreed and not just siginfo I would expect(?). We already came to that
conclusion when we first introduced them.
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task_struct needs a completion or wait queue so you can actually wait
for a pidfd to exit (unless someone already did this — I had patches a
while back).  And this would be awesome.
Currently, you can wait for a pidfd to exit via polling and you can use
a pidfd to pass it to waitid(P_PIDFD, pidfd, ...).

/me pops back into vacation
Right, so waitid already has all the infrastructure for this, so I think
adding it there makes a lot of sense. Here's what I've got:

One usability question I have is:

- if the process just exited normally, should it return an empty
  siginfo, or should it ignore __WCHILDSIGINFO? (I have it ignoring it
  above.)
Maybe ENODATA as return code, in order to make it obvious to the
caller that the siginfo is missing? In the end if somebody requests
it, they probably should have already checked that the child process
was killed by a signal, by using WNOWAIT with waitid() or wait4().

Additionally, there might be a problem with input params. The waitid()
can take P_ALL or P_PGID as arguments. If waitid() returns with 0, the
pid of the child process generating the event can be read from
si->si_pid. But siginfo_t is a union of multiple different structs,
many of them missing si_pid. So, such a flag (__WCHILDSIGINFO) would
make sense with P_PID and P_PIDFD only, maybe this should be
explicitly checked for?
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