Thread (34 messages) 34 messages, 5 authors, 2021-04-08

Re: fsnotify path hooks

From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Date: 2021-03-31 21:00:43
Also in: linux-fsdevel

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 5:06 PM Amir Goldstein [off-list ref] wrote:
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As long as "exp_export: export of idmapped mounts not yet supported.\n"
I don't think it matters much.
It feels like adding idmapped mounts to nfsd is on your roadmap.
When you get to that we can discuss adding fsnotify path hooks to nfsd
if Jan agrees to the fsnotify path hooks concept.
I was looking at the patch and thinking about it for a few days already. I
think that generating fsnotify event later (higher up the stack where we
have mount information) is fine and a neat idea. I just dislike the hackery
with dentry flags.
Me as well. I used this hack for fast POC.

If we stick with the dual hooks approach, we will have to either pass a new
argument to vfs helpers or use another trick:

Convert all the many calls sites that were converted by Christian to:
   vfs_XXX(&init_user_ns, ...
because they do not have mount context, to:
   vfs_XXX(NULL, ...

Inside the vfs helpers, use init_user_ns when mnt_userns is NULL,
but pass the original mnt_userns argument to fsnotify_ns_XXX hooks.
A non-NULL mnt_userns arg means "path_notify" context.
I have already POC code for passing mnt_userns to fsnotify hooks [1].

I did not check if this assumption always works, but there seems to
be a large overlap between idmapped aware callers and use cases
that will require sending events to a mount mark.
The above "trick" is pretty silly as I believe Christian intends
to fix all those call sites that pass init_user_ns.
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Also I'm somewhat uneasy that it is random (from
userspace POV) when path event is generated and when not (at least that's
my impression from the patch - maybe I'm wrong). How difficult would it be
to get rid of it? I mean what if we just moved say fsnotify_create() call
wholly up the stack? It would mean more explicit calls to fsnotify_create()
from filesystems - as far as I'm looking nfsd, overlayfs, cachefiles,
ecryptfs. But that would seem to be manageable.  Also, to maintain sanity,
1. I don't think we can do that for all the fsnotify_create() hooks, such as
    debugfs for example
2. It is useless to pass the mount from overlayfs to fsnotify, its a private
    mount that users cannot set a mark on anyway and Christian has
    promised to propose the same change for cachefiles and ecryptfs,
    so I think it's not worth the churn in those call sites
3. I am uneasy with removing the fsnotify hooks from vfs helpers and
    trusting that new callers of vfs_create() will remember to add the high
    level hooks, so I prefer the existing behavior remains for such callers
So I read your proposal the wrong way.
You meant move fsnotify_create() up *without* passing mount context
from overlayfs and friends.

So yeh, I do think it is manageable. I think the best solution would be
something along the lines of wrappers like the following:

static inline int vfs_mkdir(...)
{
        int error = __vfs_mkdir_nonotify(...);
        if (!error)
                fsnotify_mkdir(dir, dentry);
        return error;
}

And then the few call sites that call the fsnotify_path_ hooks
(i.e. in syscalls and perhaps later in nfsd) will call the
__vfs_xxx_nonotify() variant.

I suppose that with this approach I could make all the relevant events
available for mount mark with relatively little churn.
I will try it out.

Thanks,
Amir.
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