Re: [RFC PATCH glibc 4/8] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at C startup and thread creation (v15)
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Date: 2020-03-19 19:46:07
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----- On Mar 19, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Florian Weimer fw@deneb.enyo.de wrote:
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Inside glibc, you can assume __attribute__ support.OK, so the _Static_assert () could sit in sys/rseq.hIt requires a C11 compiler. In this case, you could use _Alignas.
How would _Alignas replace: +_Static_assert (__alignof__ (struct rseq_cs) >= 4 * sizeof(uint64_t), + "alignment"); +_Static_assert (__alignof__ (struct rseq) >= 4 * sizeof(uint64_t), + "alignment"); ? Moreover, I notice that sys/cdefs.h implements a fallback for _Static_assert for cases where it is not supported by the compiler. So I do not think it strictly depends on C11 if I include sys/cdefs.h from sys/rseq.h.
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The struct rseq/struct rseq_cs definitions are broken, they should not try to change the alignment.AFAIU, this means we should ideally not have used __attribute__((aligned)) in the uapi headers in the first place. Why is it broken ?Compilers which are not sufficiently GCC-compatible define __attribute__(X) as the empty expansion, so you silently get a different ABI.
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There is really no need to specify 32-byte alignment here. Is not even the size of a standard cache line. It can result in crashes if these structs are heap-allocated using malloc, when optimizing for AVX2.Why would it be valid to allocate those with malloc ? Isn't it the purpose of posix_memalign() ?It would not be valid, but I don't think we have diagnostics for C like we have them for C++'s operator new.We could at least make an effort to let people know that alignment is required here when allocating struct rseq and struct rseq_cs on the heap by adding some comments to that effect in linux/rseq.h ?We could use different types on the glibc side, then no special programmer action will be needed.
Can't this lead to problems when mixing up compile units which have been compiled with linux/rseq.h with compile units compiled against sys/rseq.h ? Let me take a step back and try to understand. So far, there appears to be two scenarios where having a 64-byte alignment attribute on struct rseq and struct rseq_cs can cause problems: 1) A user-space programmer uses malloc() to dynamically allocate struct rseq or struct rseq_cs, which does not satisfy any of the alignment requirement of the structure. Combining this with compiler expectations that the structure needs to be aligned on 64-byte (e.g. -mavx2) breaks things. For this first scenario, I am proposing that we document that the programmer should have used posix_memalign(), which provides the required alignment guarantees. 2) A user-space programmer mixes code compiled with compilers honouring the aligned attribute with other compile units compiled with compilers which discard those GCC extension attributes silently, embeds those into a structure, and get different struct layouts. The _Static_assert in sys/rseq.h should detect the case where a compiler is not honouring the aligned attribute, right ?
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However, now that it is in the wild, it's a bit late to change that.I had forgotten about the alignment crashes. I think we should seriously consider changing the types. 8-(I don't think this is an option at this stage given that it is part of the Linux kernel UAPI. I am not convinced that it is valid at all to allocate struct rseq or struct rseq_cs with malloc(), because it does not guarantee any alignment.The kernel ABI doesn't change. The kernel cannot use the alignment information anyway. Userspace struct layout may change in subtle ways, though.Considering the amount of pain this can cause in user-space, and because it can break userspace, this is not a UAPI change I am willing to consider. I'm not sure why we are even discussing the possibility of breaking a Linux UAPI considering that those are set in stone.Again, the kernel interface is NOT affected. Only if the struct is used in a non-top-level fashion across an ABI boundary in userspace. I think making the change now is better than dealing with the breakage in rseq users when they are built with -mavx2.
What I am missing is what are the issues that persist once we add proper documentation of alignment requirements for heap allocation and a static assert to fail early when compiled with a compiler dismissing the aligned attribute ? As you point out, changing the currently public linux/rseq.h UAPI header to remove those attributes ends up breaking user-space in scenarios of non-top-level use across ABI boundary. This is not kernel-vs-userspace ABI, but an ABI exposed by the kernel which ends up being used to coordinate user-space objects within a program. Breaking that does not appear to be any more acceptable. As I recall, the hard requirement for Linux ABIs is to do not break userspace, period. There is not mention of kernel-vs-userspace or userspace-vs-userspace. So if the end result of this change is to break user-space, it should not be changed. Thanks, Mathieu -- Mathieu Desnoyers EfficiOS Inc. http://www.efficios.com