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Re: [RFC PATCH glibc 4/8] glibc: Perform rseq(2) registration at C startup and thread creation (v15)

From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Date: 2020-03-19 19:46:07
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----- On Mar 19, 2020, at 3:05 PM, Florian Weimer fw@deneb.enyo.de wrote:
* Mathieu Desnoyers:
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Inside glibc, you can assume __attribute__ support.
OK, so the _Static_assert () could sit in sys/rseq.h
It requires a C11 compiler.  In this case, you could use _Alignas.
How would _Alignas replace:

+_Static_assert (__alignof__ (struct rseq_cs) >= 4 * sizeof(uint64_t),
+                "alignment");
+_Static_assert (__alignof__ (struct rseq) >= 4 * sizeof(uint64_t),
+                "alignment");

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Moreover, I notice that sys/cdefs.h implements a fallback for _Static_assert
for cases where it is not supported by the compiler. So I do not think it
strictly depends on C11 if I include sys/cdefs.h from sys/rseq.h.
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The struct rseq/struct rseq_cs definitions
are broken, they should not try to change the alignment.
AFAIU, this means we should ideally not have used __attribute__((aligned))
in the uapi headers in the first place. Why is it broken ?
Compilers which are not sufficiently GCC-compatible define
__attribute__(X) as the empty expansion, so you silently get a
different ABI.
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There is really no need to specify 32-byte alignment here.  Is not
even the size of a standard cache line.  It can result in crashes if
these structs are heap-allocated using malloc, when optimizing for
AVX2.
Why would it be valid to allocate those with malloc ? Isn't it the
purpose of posix_memalign() ?
It would not be valid, but I don't think we have diagnostics for C
like we have them for C++'s operator new.
We could at least make an effort to let people know that alignment is
required here when allocating struct rseq and struct rseq_cs on the
heap by adding some comments to that effect in linux/rseq.h ?
We could use different types on the glibc side, then no special
programmer action will be needed.
Can't this lead to problems when mixing up compile units which have
been compiled with linux/rseq.h with compile units compiled against
sys/rseq.h ?

Let me take a step back and try to understand.

So far, there appears to be two scenarios where having a 64-byte
alignment attribute on struct rseq and struct rseq_cs can cause
problems:

1) A user-space programmer uses malloc() to dynamically allocate
   struct rseq or struct rseq_cs, which does not satisfy any of
   the alignment requirement of the structure. Combining this with
   compiler expectations that the structure needs to be aligned
   on 64-byte (e.g. -mavx2) breaks things.

   For this first scenario, I am proposing that we document that
   the programmer should have used posix_memalign(), which provides
   the required alignment guarantees.

2) A user-space programmer mixes code compiled with compilers
   honouring the aligned attribute with other compile units compiled
   with compilers which discard those GCC extension attributes silently,
   embeds those into a structure, and get different struct layouts.

   The _Static_assert in sys/rseq.h should detect the case where a
   compiler is not honouring the aligned attribute, right ?
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However, now that it is in the wild, it's a bit late to change that.
I had forgotten about the alignment crashes.  I think we should
seriously consider changing the types. 8-(
I don't think this is an option at this stage given that it is part
of the Linux kernel UAPI. I am not convinced that it is valid at all
to allocate struct rseq or struct rseq_cs with malloc(), because it
does not guarantee any alignment.
The kernel ABI doesn't change.  The kernel cannot use the alignment
information anyway.  Userspace struct layout may change in subtle
ways, though.
Considering the amount of pain this can cause in user-space, and because
it can break userspace, this is not a UAPI change I am willing to consider.
I'm not sure why we are even discussing the possibility of breaking a Linux
UAPI considering that those are set in stone.
Again, the kernel interface is NOT affected.  Only if the struct is
used in a non-top-level fashion across an ABI boundary in userspace.
I think making the change now is better than dealing with the breakage
in rseq users when they are built with -mavx2.
What I am missing is what are the issues that persist once we add proper
documentation of alignment requirements for heap allocation and a static
assert to fail early when compiled with a compiler dismissing the
aligned attribute ?

As you point out, changing the currently public linux/rseq.h UAPI header
to remove those attributes ends up breaking user-space in scenarios of
non-top-level use across ABI boundary. This is not kernel-vs-userspace
ABI, but an ABI exposed by the kernel which ends up being used to
coordinate user-space objects within a program. Breaking that does not
appear to be any more acceptable. As I recall, the hard requirement for
Linux ABIs is to do not break userspace, period. There is not mention
of kernel-vs-userspace or userspace-vs-userspace. So if the end result
of this change is to break user-space, it should not be changed.

Thanks,

Mathieu

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Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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