Re: [PATCH 0/7] Rework random blocking
From: Pavel Machek <hidden>
Date: 2019-09-09 09:42:35
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On Thu 2019-08-29 18:11:35, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
This makes two major semantic changes to Linux's random APIs: It adds getentropy(..., GRND_INSECURE). This causes getentropy to always return *something*. There is no guarantee whatsoever that the result will be cryptographically random or even unique, but the kernel will give the best quality random output it can. The name is a big hint: the resulting output is INSECURE. The purpose of this is to allow programs that genuinely want best-effort entropy to get it without resorting to /dev/urandom. Plenty of programs do this because they need to do *something* during boot and they can't afford to wait. Calling it "INSECURE" is probably the best we can do to discourage using this API for things that need security. This series also removes the blocking pool and makes /dev/random work just like getentropy(..., 0) and makes GRND_RANDOM a no-op. I believe that Linux's blocking pool has outlived its usefulness. Linux's CRNG generates output that is good enough to use even for key generation. The blocking pool is not stronger in any material way, and keeping it around requires a lot of infrastructure of dubious value.
Could you give some more justification? If crng is good enough for you, you can use /dev/urandom... are
This series should not break any existing programs. /dev/urandom is unchanged. /dev/random will still block just after booting, but it will block less than it used to. getentropy() with existing flags will return output that is, for practical purposes, just as strong as before.
So what is the exact semantic of /dev/random after your change? Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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