Thread (27 messages) 27 messages, 4 authors, 2019-07-11

Re: [PATCH v3 4/5] mm: introduce MADV_PAGEOUT

From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Date: 2019-07-11 00:25:32
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 09:47:19PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
On Wed 10-07-19 20:53:56, Minchan Kim wrote:
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 01:16:22PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
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On Wed 10-07-19 19:48:09, Minchan Kim wrote:
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On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 11:55:19AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
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I am still not convinced about the SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX batching and the
udnerlying OOM argument. Is one pmd worth of pages really an OOM risk?
Sure you can have many invocations in parallel and that would add on
but the same might happen with SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX. So I would just remove
the batching for now and think of it only if we really see this being a
problem for real. Unless you feel really strong about this, of course.
I don't have the number to support SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX batching for hinting
operations. However, I wanted to be consistent with other LRU batching
logic so that it could affect altogether if someone try to increase
SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX which is more efficienty for batching operation, later.
(AFAIK, someone tried it a few years ago but rollback soon, I couldn't
rebemeber what was the reason at that time, anyway).
Then please drop this part. It makes the code more complex while any
benefit is not demonstrated.
The history says the benefit.
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/patch/?id=d37dd5dcb955dd8c2cdd4eaef1f15d1b7ecbc379
Limiting the number of isolated pages is fine. All I am saying is that
SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX is an arbitrary number same as 512 pages for one PMD as
a unit of work. Both can lead to the same effect if there are too many
parallel tasks doing the same thing.

I do not want you to change that in the reclaim path. All I am asking
for is to add a bathing without any actual data to back that because
that makes the code more complex without any gains.
I understand what you meant and I'm really one to make code simple.
However, my concern was that we have isolated by SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX(32 pages)
for other path(reclaim/compaction) so I want to be consistent with others.
If you think that the consistency(IOW, others are 32 limit but here 256
limit) is no helpful this case, I don't have any strong opinion.
Let's drop the part. I will add it into description, then.

Thanks.
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Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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