Thread (42 messages) 42 messages, 10 authors, 2018-11-29

Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] signal: add procfd_signal() syscall

From: Daniel Colascione <hidden>
Date: 2018-11-20 09:15:30
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 2:40 PM Tycho Andersen [off-list ref] wrote:
Can I just register an objection here that I think using a syscall
just for this is silly?
Yes, you can argue that the bikeshed should be ioctl-colored and not
syscall-colored.
My understanding is that the concern is that some code might do:

unknown_fd = recv_fd();
ioctl(unknown_fd, SOME_IOCTL, NULL); // where SOME_IOCTL == PROC_FD_KILL
// whoops, unknown_fd was a procfd and we killed a task!

In my experience when writing fd sending/receiving code, the sender and
receiver are fairly tightly coupled. Has anyone ever actually fixed a
bug where they had an fd that they lost track of what "type" it was
and screwed up like this? It seems completely theoretical to me.
Yes, I have fixed bugs of this form.
The ioctl() approach has the benefit of being extensible.
The system call table is also extensible. ioctl is for when a given
piece of functionality *can't* realistically get its own system call
because it's separated from the main kernel somehow. procfs is a core
part of the kernel, so we can and should expose interfaces to it using
system calls.
Adding a
syscall means that everyone has to do all the boilerplate for each new
pid op in the kernel, arches, libc, strace, etc.
These tools also care about ioctls. Adding a system call is a pain,
but the solution is to make adding system calls less of a pain, not to
permanently make the Linux ABI worse.
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