Re: [PATCH v14 04/14] task_isolation: add initial support

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:59:55AM -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:

On 8/11/2016 2:50 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:

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On Thu, 11 Aug 2016, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:

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Do we need to quiesce vmstat everytime before entering userspace?
I thought that vmstat only need to be offlined once and for all?

Once is sufficient after disabling the tick.

It's true that task_isolation_enter() is called every time before
returning to user space while task isolation is enabled.

But once we enter the kernel again after returning from the initial
prctl() -- assuming we are in NOSIG mode so doing so is legal in the
first place -- almost anything can happen, certainly including
restarting the tick.  Thus, we have to make sure that normal quiescing
happens again before we return to userspace.

Yes but we need to sort out what needs to be called only once on prctl().

Once vmstat is quiesced, it's not going to need quiescing again even if we
restart the tick.

For vmstat, you're right that it's somewhat heavyweight to do the
quiesce, and if we don't need it, it's wasted time on the return path.
So I will add a guard call to the new vmstat_idle() before invoking
quiet_vmstat_sync().  This slows down the path where it turns out we
do need to quieten vmstat, but not by too much.

Why not do this on prctl() only?

The LRU quiesce is quite light-weight.  We just check pagevec_count()
on a handful of pagevec's, confirm they are all zero, and return
without further work.  So for that one, adding a separate
lru_add_drain_needed() guard test would just be wasted effort.

Ok if this one is justified, like LRU may need update everytime we re-enter
the kernel, then we can keep it (I can't tell, I don't know much about -mm).

The thing to remember is that this is only relevant if the user has
explicitly requested the NOSIG behavior from task isolation, which we
don't really expect to be the default - we are implicitly encouraging
use of the default semantics of "you can't enter the kernel again
until you turn off isolation".

That's right. Although NOSIG is the only thing we can afford as long as
we drag around the 1Hz.

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+	if (!tick_nohz_tick_stopped())
+		set_tsk_need_resched(current);
Again, that won't help

It won't be better than spinning in a loop if there aren't any other
schedulable processes, but it won't be worse either.  If there is
another schedulable process, we at least will schedule it sooner than
if we just sat in a busy loop and waited for the scheduler to kick
us. But there's nothing else we can do anyway if we want to maintain
the guarantee that the dyn tick is stopped before return to userspace.

I don't think it helps either way. If reschedule is pending, the current
task already has TIF_RESCHED set.

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