E Eric W. Biederman #
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"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" [off-list ref] writes:
Hi Andrey, On 07/22/2016 08:25 PM, Andrey Vagin wrote:quoted
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:48 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [off-list ref] wrote:quoted
Hi Andrey, On 07/21/2016 11:06 PM, Andrew Vagin wrote:quoted
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 04:41:12PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:quoted
Hi Andrey, On 07/14/2016 08:20 PM, Andrey Vagin wrote:<snip>quoted
Could you add here an of the API in detail: what do these FDs refer to, and how do you use them to solve the use case? And could you you add that info to the commit messages please.Hi Michael, A patch for man-pages is attached. It adds the following text to namespaces(7). Since Linux 4.X, the following ioctl(2) calls are supported for names‐ pace file descriptors. The correct syntax is: fd = ioctl(ns_fd, ioctl_type); where ioctl_type is one of the following: NS_GET_USERNS Returns a file descriptor that refers to an owning user names‐
Hmm. That is an odd default.
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In addition to generic ioctl(2) errors, the following specific ones can occur: EINVAL NS_GET_PARENT was called for a nonhierarchical namespace. EPERM The requested namespace is outside of the current namespace scope.Perhaps add "and the caller does not have CAP_SYS_ADMIN" in the initial user namespace"?
Having looked at that bit of code I don't think capabilities really
have a role to play.
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ENOENT ns_fd refers to the init namespace.Thanks for this. But still part of the question remains unanswered. How do we (in user-space) use the file descriptors to answer any of the questions that this patch series was designed to solve? (This info should be in the commit message and the man-pages patch.)I'm sorry, but I am not sure that I understand what you ask. Here are the origin questions: Someone else then asked me a question that led me to wonder about generally introspecting on the parental relationships between user namespaces and the association of other namespaces types with user namespaces. One use would be visualization, in order to understand the running system. Another would be to answer the question I already mentioned: what capability does process X have to perform operations on a resource governed by namespace Y? Here is an example which shows how we can get the owning namespace inode number by using these ioctl-s. $ ls -l /proc/13929/ns/pid lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul 22 21:03 /proc/13929/ns/pid -> 'pid:[4026532228]' $ ./nsowner /proc/13929/ns/pid user:[4026532227] The owning user namespace for pid:[4026532228] is user:[4026532227]. The nsowner tool is cimpiled from this code: int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { char buf[128], path[] = "/proc/self/fd/0123456789"; int ns, uns, ret; ns = open(argv[1], O_RDONLY); if (ns < 0) return 1;
Please, please make the standard way to compare these things fstat. That is much less magic than a symlink, and a little more future proof. Possibly even kcmp. At some point we will care about migrating a migrating sub-container and we may have to have some minor changes. Eric _______________________________________________ Containers mailing list Containers@lists.linux-foundation.org https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/containers