Re: [PATCH RFC] Introduce new security.nscapability xattr
From: Serge E. Hallyn <hidden>
Date: 2015-12-01 03:51:54
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- 2016-01-20 · Re: [PATCH RFC] Introduce new security.nscapability xattr · Jann Horn <hidden>
- 2015-11-30 · [PATCH RFC] Introduce new security.nscapability xattr · Serge E. Hallyn <hidden>
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 05:08:34PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
"Serge E. Hallyn" [off-list ref] writes:quoted
A common way for daemons to run with minimal privilege is to start as root, perhaps setuid-root, choose a desired capability set, set PR_SET_KEEPCAPS, then change uid to non-root. A simpler way to achieve this is to set file capabilities on a not-setuid-root binary. However, when installing a package inside a (user-namespaced) container, packages cannot be installed with file capabilities. For this reason, containers must install ping setuid-root.Don't ping sockets avoid that specific problem? I expect the general case still holds.
Hah - yes, I guess do I have to update my 10 year old default example :)
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To achieve this, we would need for containers to be able to request file capabilities be added to a file without causing these to be honored in the initial user namespace. To this end, the patch below introduces a new capability xattr format. The main enhancement over the existing security.capability xattr is that we tag capability sets with a uid - the uid of the root user in the namespace where the capabilities are set. The capabilities will be ignored in any other namespace. The special case of uid == -1 (which must only ever be able to be set by kuid 0) means use the capabilities in all namespaces.A quick comment on this. We currently allow capabilities that have been gained to be valid in all descendent user namespaces. Applying this principle to the on-disk capabilities would make it so that uid 0 would mean capabilities in all namespaces. It might be worth it to introduce a fixed sized array with a length parameter of perhaps 32 entries which is a path of root uids as seen by the initial user namespace. That way the entire construction of the user namespace could be verified. AKA verify the current user namespace and the parent and the parents parent. Up to the user namespace the
Hm, so if container b runs in container a, a has rootid 100000 and a range of 200000, and b has root kuid 200000, range 65536, iiuc you're suggesting that for a binary in container b we store [100000,200000] ? I'm not sure that's helpful, though - uid 200000 in a user namespace with 200000 mapped to root, is all powerful anyway. I was actually thinking (with the uid ranges) of making the connection looser, not tighter.
current filesystem is mounted in. We would look at how much space allows an xattr to be stored without causing filesystems a challenge to properly size such an array. Given that uids are fundamentally flat that might not be particularly useful.
Right, I think that's the conclusion I've drawn above (if I'm not misunderstanding you)
If we add an alternative way of identifying user namespaces say a privileged operation that set a uuid, then the complete path would be more interesting.quoted
An alternative format would use a pair of uids to indicate a range of rootids. This would allow root in a user namespace with uids 100000-165536 mapped to set the xattr once on a file, then launch nested containers wherein the file could be used with privilege. That's not what this patch does, but would be a trivial change if people think it would be worthwhile. This patch does not actually address the real problem, which is setting the xattrs from inside containers. For that, I think the best solution is to add a pair of new system calls, setfcap and getfcap. Userspace would for instance call fsetfcap(fd, cap_user_header_t, cap_user_data_t), to which the kernel would, if not in init_user_ns, react by writing an appropriate security.nscapability xattr.That feels hard to maintain, but you may be correct that we have a small
Hard to maintain in which sense? Complicated for userspace software, or becoming too complicated in the kernel's bprm-capabilities code?
enough userspace that it would not be a problem.
Yeah I'm thinking we can hide it all behind libcap2. Unless we go with uid ranges, in which case we'd need a way to expose that, but that would be an optional extension, the sane default would be transparent, so no big deal. -serge