Re: Revised futex(2) man page for review

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Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <hidden>
Date
2015-07-27 11:11:11
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Peter Zijlstra, 2015-03-28
Hi Peter,

On 03/28/2015 01:03 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 12:47:25PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
quoted
       FUTEX_WAIT (since Linux 2.6.0)
              This operation tests that the value at the futex word pointed to
              by the address uaddr still contains the expected value val,  and
              if  so,  then sleeps awaiting FUTEX_WAKE on the futex word.  The
              load of the value of the futex word is an atomic  memory  access
              (i.e.,  using  atomic  machine  instructions  of  the respective
              architecture).  This load,  the  comparison  with  the  expected
              value,  and  starting  to  sleep  are  performed  atomically and
              totally ordered with respect to other futex  operations  on  the
              same  futex  word.  If the thread starts to sleep, it is consid‐
              ered a waiter on this futex word.  If the futex value  does  not
              match  val,  then  the  call  fails  immediately  with the error
              EAGAIN.

              The purpose of the comparison with the expected value is to pre‐
              vent  lost  wake-ups: If another thread changed the value of the
              futex word after the calling thread decided to  block  based  on
              the  prior  value, and if the other thread executed a FUTEX_WAKE
              operation (or similar wake-up) after the value change and before
              this  FUTEX_WAIT  operation,  then  the  latter will observe the
              value change and will not start to sleep.

              If the timeout argument is non-NULL, its contents specify a rel‐
              ative   timeout   for   the  wait,  measured  according  to  the
              CLOCK_MONOTONIC clock.  (This interval will be rounded up to the
              system clock granularity, and kernel scheduling delays mean that
              the blocking interval may overrun by a small amount.)  If  time‐
              out is NULL, the call blocks indefinitely.
Would it not be better to only state that the wait will not return
before the timeout -- unless woken -- and not bother with clock
granularity and scheduling delays?
Many of the pages that talk about system calls that have timeouts
carry similar language, since people often have confusions about what time
timeout (e.g., that it's an upper limit, not a minimum; or that it's precise
to some very small granularity). Why do you think the language here is a
problem?

Cheers,

Michael



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Michael Kerrisk
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