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Re: [PATCH RFC v7 net-next 00/28] BPF syscall

From: Andy Lutomirski <hidden>
Date: 2014-08-27 18:26:42
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On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Alexei Starovoitov [off-list ref] wrote:
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Alexei Starovoitov [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Andy Lutomirski [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Aug 26, 2014 7:29 PM, "Alexei Starovoitov" [off-list ref] wrote:
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Hi Ingo, David,

posting whole thing again as RFC to get feedback on syscall only.
If syscall bpf(int cmd, union bpf_attr *attr, unsigned int size) is ok,
I'll split them into small chunks as requested and will repost without RFC.
IMO it's much easier to review a syscall if we just look at a
specification of what it does.  The code is, in some sense, secondary.
'specification of what it does'... hmm, you mean beyond what's
there in commit logs and in Documentation/networking/filter.txt ?
Aren't samples at the end give an idea on 'what it does'?
I'm happy to add 'specification', I just don't understand yet what
it suppose to talk about beyond what's already written.
I understand that the patches are missing explanation on 'why'
the syscall is being added, but I don't think it's what you're asking...
I mean a hopefully short document that defines what the syscall does.
It should be precise enough that one could, in principle, implement
the syscall just by reading the document and that one could use the
syscall just by reading the document.

Given that there's a whole instruction set to go with it, it may end
up being moderately complicated or saying things like "see this other
thing for a description of the instruction set" and "there are some
extensible sets of functions you can call with it".
I'm still lost.

Here is the quote from Documentation/networking/filter.txt
"
'maps' is a generic storage of different types for sharing data between kernel
and userspace.

The maps are accessed from user space via BPF syscall,
which has commands:
- create a map with given type and attributes
  map_fd = bpf(BPF_MAP_CREATE, union bpf_attr *attr, u32 size)
  using attr->map_type, attr->key_size, attr->value_size, attr->max_entries
  returns process-local file descriptor or negative error

- lookup key in a given map
  err = bpf(BPF_MAP_LOOKUP_ELEM, union bpf_attr *attr, u32 size)
  using attr->map_fd, attr->key, attr->value
  returns zero and stores found elem into value or negative error

- create or update key/value pair in a given map
  err = bpf(BPF_MAP_UPDATE_ELEM, union bpf_attr *attr, u32 size)
  using attr->map_fd, attr->key, attr->value
  returns zero or negative error

- find and delete element by key in a given map
  err = bpf(BPF_MAP_DELETE_ELEM, union bpf_attr *attr, u32 size)
  using attr->map_fd, attr->key

- to delete map: close(fd)
  Exiting process will delete maps automatically

userspace programs uses this API to create/populate/read
maps that eBPF programs are concurrently updating.
"
and more in commit log:
"
- load eBPF program
  fd = bpf(BPF_PROG_LOAD, union bpf_attr *attr, u32 size)

  where 'attr' is
  struct {
      enum bpf_prog_type prog_type;
      __u32 insn_cnt;
      struct bpf_insn __user *insns;
      const char __user *license;
  };
  insns - array of eBPF instructions
  license - must be GPL compatible to call helper functions marked gpl_only

- unload eBPF program
  close(fd)
"

Isn't it short and describes what it does?
Do you want me to describe what eBPF program can do?
The problem is that everyone needs to dig around a very long patch
series to find it.  Since you're asking for a review of a syscall, it
would be nice to have everything needed to review whether the syscall
is a good idea in its present form in one place and to keep the amount
of email under control.

--Andy

-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC
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