Thread (2 messages) 2 messages, 2 authors, 2011-01-20

Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] add metadata_incore ioctl in vfs

From: Shaohua Li <hidden>
Date: 2011-01-20 05:38:18
Also in: linux-fsdevel

On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 12:10 +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:21:49 +0800 Shaohua Li [off-list ref] wrote:
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It seems to return a single offset/length tuple which refers to the
btrfs metadata "file", with the intent that this tuple later be fed
into a btrfs-specific readahead ioctl.

I can see how this might be used with say fatfs or ext3 where all
metadata resides within the blockdev address_space.  But how is a
filesytem which keeps its metadata in multiple address_spaces supposed
to use this interface?
Oh, this looks like a big problem, thanks for letting me know such
filesystems. is it possible specific filesystem mapping multiple
address_space ranges to a virtual big ranges? the new ioctls handle the
mapping.
I'm not sure what you mean by that.

ext2, minix and probably others create an address_space for each
directory.  Heaven knows what xfs does (for example).
yes, this is for one directiory, but the all files's metadata are in
block_dev address_space.
I thought you mean there are several block_dev address_space like
address_space in some filesystems, which doesn't fit well in my
implementation. for ext like filesystem, there is only one
address_space. for filesystems with several address_space, my proposal
is map them to a virtual big address_space in the new ioctls.

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I'm not sure any of that was very useful, really.  A full-on coldboot
optimiser really wants visibility into every disk block which need to
be read, and then mechanisms to tell the kernel to load those blocks
into the correct address_spaces.  That's hard, because file data
depends on file metadata.  A vast simplification would be to do it in
two disk passes: read all the metadata on pass 1 then all the data on
pass 2.
This is exactly what my patch does. We use the new ioctls to do metadata
readahead in first pass, and do data readahead in the second pass.
A totally different approach is to reorder all the data and metadata
on-disk, so no special cold-boot processing is needed at all.
not feasible for a product and it's very hard for some filesystmes.
And a third approach is to save all the cache into a special
file/partition/etc and to preload all that into kernel data structures
at boot.  Obviously this one is ricky/tricky because the on-disk
replica of the real data can get out of sync with the real data.
Tricky staff.
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