Re: [1/1] Use pid in inotify events.

[CC += "John McCutchan" [off-list ref], who was one of the
inotify developers, as I recall]

Hi Evgeniy,

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Evgeniy Polyakov [off-list ref] wrote:

Hi Michael.

On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 09:25:16AM -0500, Michael Kerrisk (mtk.manpages-gM/Ye1E23mwN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org) wrote:

quoted

I've not looked closely at the patch, but a quick question.  The
ookied field is unused for _most_ events, but is used for rename
events.  Are you saying that with this patch, that the cookie will be
used as before for rename events, but for other events it will be the
PID of the triggering process?  If so, that seems a bit ugly -- why
wouldn't we also be intersted in the PID for rename events?

Yes, rename events actually consist of at least two: move from and move
to, and they carry the same cookie, so that userspace could combine them
into single transaction. All others use zero, so I decided to put PID of
the caller there. This does not look perfect of course, but we can not
change the structure layout, so rename events can not be changed to
carry additional PID field.

It's perhaps unfortunate that the structure wasn't padded out with a
few additional fields "for future use".  But -- maybe it is not really
true that we can't change things.  Two things to consider:

a) We now (since 2.6.27) have an inotify_init1() which has a flags argument.
b) There are spare bits in the mask argument of inotify_add_watch()

We could use a flag in either of these to say that we want a different
structure returned on read() from the inotify descriptor.  In the
first case, this would be a global setting for all inotify events on
that descriptor.  In the second, we could do it on a per-watch basis
(I'm not so sure that that is a nice idea).  Since we are in any case
extending the ABI, and new applications would need to be taught about
the extension, it seems we could consider either of the alternative
extensions I mentioned, which woul also allow the PID to be obtained
for rename() events.  What do you think?

Cheers,

Michael

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