Thread (92 messages) 92 messages, 9 authors, 2012-12-15

Re: [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] acpi: Introduce prepare_remove device operation

From: Jiang Liu <hidden>
Date: 2012-12-06 17:30:42
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On 12/07/2012 01:09 AM, Toshi Kani wrote:
On Fri, 2012-12-07 at 00:52 +0800, Jiang Liu wrote:
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On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 19:05 +0800, Hanjun Guo wrote:
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Yes, sharing idea is good. :)  I do not know if we need all 6 steps (I
have not looked at all your changes yet..), but in my mind, a hot-plug
operation should be composed with the following 3 phases.

1. Validate phase - Verify if the request is a supported operation.  All
known restrictions are verified at this phase.  For instance, if a
hot-remove request involves kernel memory, it is failed in this phase.
Since this phase makes no change, no rollback is necessary to fail.  

2. Execute phase - Perform hot-add / hot-remove operation that can be
rolled-back in case of error or cancel.

3. Commit phase - Perform the final hot-add / hot-remove operation that
cannot be rolled-back.  No error / cancel is allowed in this phase.  For
instance, eject operation is performed at this phase.  
Hi Toshi,
	There are one more step needed. Linux provides sysfs interfaces to
online/offline CPU/memory sections, so we need to protect from concurrent
operations from those interfaces when doing physical hotplug. Think about
following sequence:
Thread 1
1. validate conditions for hot-removal
2. offline memory section A
3.						online memory section A			
4. offline memory section B
5 hot-remove memory device hosting A and B.
Hi Gerry,

I agree.  And I am working on a proposal that tries to address this
issue by integrating both sysfs and hotplug operations into a framework.
Hi Toshi,
	But the sysfs for CPU and memory online/offline are platform independent
interfaces, and the ACPI based hotplug is platform dependent interfaces. I'm not
sure whether it's feasible to merge them. For example we still need offline interface
to stop using faulty CPUs on platform without physical hotplug capabilities.
	We have solved this by adding a "busy" flag to the device, so the sysfs
will just return -EBUSY if the busy flag is set.
I am making the framework code platform-independent so that it can
handle both cases.  Well, I am still prototyping, so hopefully it will
work. :)
Do you mean implementing a framework to manage hotplug of any type of devices?
That sounds like a huge plan:)

Otherwise there may be a gap. CPU online/offline interface deals with logical
CPU, and hotplug driver deals with physical devices(processor). They may be different
by related objects.
Actually it is not a huge plan.  The framework I am thinking of is to
enable a hotplug sequencer something analogous to do_initcalls() at the
boot sequence.  I am not doing any huge re-work.  That said, I am
currently testing my theory, so I won't promise anything, either. :)
Please do give us an update when you get any progress:)
Thanks,
-Toshi
  
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