Re: [!!Mass Mail KSE][MASSMAIL KLMS] Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/7] virtio/vsock: introduce MSG_EOR flag for SEQPACKET
From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Date: 2021-08-06 07:16:53
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On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 12:21:57PM +0300, Arseny Krasnov wrote:
On 05.08.2021 12:06, Stefano Garzarella wrote:quoted
Caution: This is an external email. Be cautious while opening links or attachments. On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 11:33:12AM +0300, Arseny Krasnov wrote:quoted
On 04.08.2021 15:57, Stefano Garzarella wrote:quoted
Caution: This is an external email. Be cautious while opening links or attachments. Hi Arseny, On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 07:31:33PM +0300, Arseny Krasnov wrote:quoted
This patchset implements support of MSG_EOR bit for SEQPACKET AF_VSOCK sockets over virtio transport. Idea is to distinguish concepts of 'messages' and 'records'. Message is result of sending calls: 'write()', 'send()', 'sendmsg()' etc. It has fixed maximum length, and it bounds are visible using return from receive calls: 'read()', 'recv()', 'recvmsg()' etc. Current implementation based on message definition above.Okay, so the implementation we merged is wrong right? Should we disable the feature bit in stable kernels that contain it? Or maybe we can backport the fixes...Hi, No, this is correct and it is message boundary based. Idea of this patchset is to add extra boundaries marker which i think could be useful when we want to send data in seqpacket mode which length is bigger than maximum message length(this is limited by transport). Of course we can fragment big piece of data too small messages, but this requires to carry fragmentation info in data protocol. So In this case when we want to maintain boundaries receiver calls recvmsg() until MSG_EOR found. But when receiver knows, that data is fit in maximum datagram length, it doesn't care about checking MSG_EOR just calling recv() or read()(e.g. message based mode).I'm not sure we should maintain boundaries of multiple send(), from POSIX standard [1]:Yes, but also from POSIX: such calls like send() and sendmsg() operates with "message" and if we check recvmsg() we will find the following thing: For message-based sockets, such as SOCK_DGRAM and SOCK_SEQPACKET, the entire message shall be read in a single operation. If a message is too long to fit in the supplied buffers, and MSG_PEEK is not set in the flags argument, the excess bytes shall be discarded. I understand this, that send() boundaries also must be maintained. I've checked SEQPACKET in AF_UNIX and AX_25 - both doesn't support MSG_EOR, so send() boundaries must be supported.quoted
SOCK_SEQPACKET Provides sequenced, reliable, bidirectional, connection-mode transmission paths for records. A record can be sent using one or more output operations and received using one or more input operations, but a single operation never transfers part of more than one record. Record boundaries are visible to the receiver via the MSG_EOR flag. From my understanding a record could be sent with multiple send() and received, for example, with a single recvmsg(). The only boundary should be the MSG_EOR flag set by the user on the last send() of a record.You are right, if we talking about "record".quoted
From send() description [2]: MSG_EOR Terminates a record (if supported by the protocol). From recvmsg() description [3]: MSG_EOR End-of-record was received (if supported by the protocol). Thanks, Stefano [1] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/socket.html [2] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/send.html [3] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/recvmsg.htmlP.S.: seems SEQPACKET is too exotic thing that everyone implements it in own manner, because i've tested SCTP seqpacket implementation, and found that: 1) It doesn't support MSG_EOR bit at send side, but uses MSG_EOR at receiver side to mark MESSAGE boundary. 2) According POSIX any extra bytes that didn't fit in user's buffer must be dropped, but SCTP doesn't drop it - you can read rest of datagram in next calls.
Thanks for this useful information, now I see the differences and why we should support both. I think is better to include them in the cover letter. I'm going to review the paches right now :-) Stefano