Thread (67 messages) 67 messages, 15 authors, 2016-07-22

Re: [RFC 0/3] extend kexec_file_load system call

From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Date: 2016-07-13 13:28:01
Also in: linux-arm-kernel, linuxppc-dev, lkml

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On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 09:45:22AM +1000, Stewart Smith wrote:
Vivek Goyal [off-list ref] writes:
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On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:58:09AM -0300, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
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Hello Eric,

Am Dienstag, 12 Juli 2016, 08:25:48 schrieb Eric W. Biederman:
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AKASHI Takahiro [off-list ref] writes:
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Device tree blob must be passed to a second kernel on DTB-capable
archs, like powerpc and arm64, but the current kernel interface
lacks this support.

This patch extends kexec_file_load system call by adding an extra
argument to this syscall so that an arbitrary number of file descriptors
can be handed out from user space to the kernel.

See the background [1].

Please note that the new interface looks quite similar to the current
system call, but that it won't always mean that it provides the "binary
compatibility."

[1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/kexec/2016-June/016276.html
So this design is wrong.  The kernel already has the device tree blob,
you should not be extracting it from the kernel munging it, and then
reinserting it in the kernel if you want signatures and everything to
pass.

What x86 does is pass it's equivalent of the device tree blob from one
kernel to another directly and behind the scenes.  It does not go
through userspace for this.

Until a persuasive case can be made for going around the kernel and
probably adding a feature (like code execution) that can be used to
defeat the signature scheme I am going to nack this.
There are situations where userspace needs to change things in the device 
tree to be used by the next kernel.

For example, Petitboot (the boot loader used in OpenPOWER machines) is a 
userspace application running in an intermediary Linux instance and uses 
kexec to load the target OS. It has to modify the device tree that will be 
used by the next kernel so that the next kernel uses the same console that 
petitboot was configured to use (i.e., set the /chosen/linux,stdout-path 
property). It also modifies the device tree to allow the kernel to inherit 
Petitboot's Openfirmware framebuffer.
Can some of this be done with the help of kernel command line options for
second kernel?
how would this be any more secure?

Passing in an address for a framebuffer via command line option means
you could scribble over any bit of memory, which is the same kind of
damage you could do by modifying the device tree.
It is not necessarily safer but works with given framework and we don't
have to modify existing system call.

Also it will allow you to pass in only one thing at a time instead of
allowing passing in new unsigned DTB, which can potentially do lot more.

Vivek

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