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Request Chinese mail list and FrontPage

From: Anuz Pratap Singh Tomar <hidden>
Date: 2016-09-06 12:29:31

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Schrey, Moritz <
moritz.schrey@ias.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
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On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Andrey Utkin
[off-list ref] wrote:
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My vision is that if some nice people of Chinese origination AND
qualified as experienced kernel developers would have time and habit
to reply newbie questions on kernelnewbies mailing list, they would
often reply also to questions posted in English, because
 - to succeed as kernel dev you must have good English, so good
kernel
quoted
   devs all know English well, and
 - it would be unfair to answer only to your compatriots when a lot
of
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   newbies of different nations want help, too.

And what I see happening is that no people with Chinese names are
answering the questions here. Most of answers come from Greg
Kroah-Hartman, who doesn't speak Chinese I guess. However, I'm
watching this list just for two weeks, so my conclusion may be wrong.
Hi, Andrey Utkin

Thanks for your advice. I agree that English is very useful when we
discuss kernel problems, but it's also necessary for us to have our
native language maillist. With this list, we can talk about various
topics, even trivial questions about kernel and I believe we can help a
lot of Chinese developers. If we can't deal with some difficult
problems, we will certainly ask for help in English list. Several years
ago, we once had a chinese mail list which domain is http://zh-
kernel.org and many Chinese developer, such as Herbert Xu, Wang Cong,
Mingming Cao and Bryan Wu, were active in this list. But, it's very
pity that this domain is invalid now. That's why I request a mail list.

Thanks,
Hao Lee

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Kernelnewbies at kernelnewbies.org
https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies
Following your rationale, there should be separate mailing lists for every
kernel hacker language. This would reduce the scope of helpful answers and
lessen the motivation to answer with helpful comments at all, as less
people are likely to read it.

Trivial questions of all kind have been asked and answered on this list.

How should a Chinese kernel developer contribute to the kernel if he/she
does not feel comfortable to speak English?

Due to the above, I feel that there should be only one kernelnewbies
mailing list, which accumulates all newbies and people willing to help.
To add to that, this list is already low traffic (3-4 mails per day).
I don't know how much traffic a language specific mailing list will
generate.
Majority of Kernel documentation and pretty much most kernel code comments
are in English.
Non technical and regional issues may be discussed in regional languages,
but I suppose LUGs are more suitable for such conversation compared to a
kernel mailing list.
That being said, if you have resources to create a mailing list in your
language, I don't see a reason why you shouldn't start one yourself and may
be add an entry to newbies website. The mention of such entry may or may
not be on front page of newbie website, that is something admins of site
will decide.

Thank
-A
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