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Difference between logical and physical cpu hotplug

From: Vaibhav Jain <hidden>
Date: 2011-08-23 06:10:30

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Srivatsa Bhat [off-list ref]wrote:

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Vaibhav Jain [off-list ref] wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Srivatsa Bhat [off-list ref]wrote:
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  On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Srivatsa Bhat <
bhat.srivatsa at gmail.com> wrote:
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   On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Vaibhav Jain [off-list ref]wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 9:02 AM, srivatsa bhat <
bhat.srivatsa at gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Vaibhav,

 On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Vaibhav Jain [off-list ref]wrote:
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Hi,

I talked to a friend of mine and he suggested that
in a logical offline state the cpu is powered on and ready to execute
instructions
just that the kernel is not aware of it. But in case of physical
offline state the cpu
is powered off and cannot run.
Are you saying something similar ?

Yes, you are right, mostly.
When you try to logically offline a CPU, the kernel will do task
migration (i.e., move out all the tasks running on that CPU to other CPUs in
the system) and it ensures that it doesn't need that CPU anymore. This also
means that, from now on, the context of that CPU need not be saved (because
the kernel has moved that CPU's tasks elsewhere). At this point, it is as if
the kernel is purposefully using only a subset of the available CPUs. This
step is a necessary prerequisite to do physical CPU offline later on.

But I don't think CPU power ON or OFF is the differentiating factor
between logical and physical offlining. In logical offline, you still have
the CPUs in the system but you just tell the kernel not to use them. At this
stage, you can power off your CPU, to save power for example.
But in physical offline, from a software perspective, you do
additional work at the firmware level (apart from logical offlining at the
OS level), to ensure that physically plugging out the CPUs will not affect
the running system in any way.

Please note that you can logically online and offline the same CPUs
over and over again without rebooting the system. Here, while onlining a CPU
which was offlined previously, the kernel follows almost the same sequence
which it normally follows while booting the CPUs during full system booting.

Also one more thing to be noted is that, to be able to physically
hot-plug CPUs, apart from OS and firmware support, you also need the
hardware to support this feature. That is, the electrical wiring to the
individual CPUs should be such that plugging them in and out does not
interfere with the functioning of the rest of the system. As of today, there
are only a few systems that support physical CPU-hotplug. But you can do
logical CPU hotplug easily, by configuring the kernel appropriately during
compilation, as you have noted in one of your previous mails.

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat

Hi Srivatsa,

That was great explanation! Thanks!
I have just one more query. You mentioned above that " the kernel
follows almost the same *sequence *which it normally follows while
booting the CPUs during full system booting."

Can you please explain this sequence a little ?
Hi Vaibhav,

I'll try to outline a very high level view of what happens while booting
an SMP (Symmetric Multi-Processor) system. Instead of going through the
entire boot sequence, let me just highlight only the part that is of
interest in this discussion: booting multiple CPUs.

The "boot processor" is the one which is booted first while booting a
system. On x86 architecture, CPU 0 is always the boot processor. Hence, if
you have observed, you cannot offline CPU0 using CPU hot-plugging on an x86
machine. (On an Intel box, the file /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/online is
purposefully absent, for this reason!). But in other architectures, this
might not be the case. For example on POWER architecture, any processor in
the system can act as the boot processor.

Once the boot processor does its initialization, the other processors,
known as "secondary processors or application processors (APs)" are
booted/initialized. Here, obviously some synchronization mechanism is
necessary to ensure that this order is followed. So in Linux, we use 2
bitmasks called "cpu_callout_mask" and "cpu_callin_mask". These bitmasks are
used to indicate the processors available in the system.

Once the boot processor initializes itself, it updates cpu_callout_mask
to indicate which secondary processor (or application processor AP) can
initialize itself next (for example, the boot processor sets a particular
bit as 1 in the cpu_callout_mask). On the other hand, the secondary
processor would have done some very basic initialization till then and will
be testing the value of 'cpu_callout_mask' in a while loop to see if its
number has been "called out" by the boot processor. Only after the boot
processor "calls out" this AP, this AP will continue the rest of its
initialization and completes it.

Once the AP completes its initialization, it reports back to the boot
processor by setting its number in the cpu_callin_mask. As expected, the
boot processor would have been waiting in a while loop on cpu_callin_mask to
see if this AP booted OK or not. Once it finds that the cpu_callin_mask for
this AP has been set, the boot processor follows the same procedure to boot
other APs: i.e., it updates cpu_callout_mask and waits for the corresponding
entry to be set in cpu_callin_mask by that AP and so on. This process
continues until all the APs are booted up.

Of course, each of these "waiting" times (of both boot processor and
APs) are capped by some preset value, say for example 5 seconds. If some AP
takes more than that time to boot, the boot processor declares that the AP
could not boot and takes appropriate action (like clearing its bit in
cpu_callout_mask and logically removing that AP from its tables etc,
effectively forgetting about that processor). Similarly while the APs wait
for the boot processor to call them out, if the boot processor does not call
them within a given time period, they declare kernel panic.

Here are some references, if you are interested in more details:

Linux kernel source code:
1. linux/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c : start_secondary() and smp_callin()
    These are the functions executed by the APs (secondary or
application processors). Actually smp_callin() is called within
start_secondary() which is the primary function executed by APs.

2. linux/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c :  do_boot_cpu()
       This is executed by the boot processor.  You can look up other
important functions such as native_cpu_up().

    General SMP booting info:
    1. http://www.cheesecake.org/sac/smp.html

[ Sorry, I accidentally sent the earlier mail before composing the text
fully. ]

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat


 Awesome explanation Srivatsa!! Thanks a lot!!
Just had one more doubt. I am a little unclear about how the APs get
initialized in the beginning. In the case of Boot Processor
its just like a uniprocessor system. But how do the APs start executing
code ?
Could you please explain a little ?
Sure. But please note that I will stick to Intel architecture while
explaining the details.

The Boot CPU or the Boot-Strap Processor (BSP) is the one which boots the
Operating System. Then it wakes up the APs (Application Processors) when it
is the right time.

Let us now explore some background details to understand how all this
works.
On uniprocessor systems we use PIC (Programmable Interrupt Controller) like
the 8259A Interrupt Controller chip to deliver interrupts to the processor.
On Multi-Processor (MP) systems, we use something known as APICs (Advanced
Programmable Interrupt Controllers). Every processor has a local APIC.
And there are one or more I/O APICs in the system that are shared by all
the processors. As the name suggests, I/O APICs are used to deliver
interrupts from I/O devices to the processors, via the local APICs.

All local APICs have unique IDs that are assigned either by the hardware or
the BIOS during the initialization phase. Using the local APIC ID we can
identify the processors in the system.

Using these local APICs, we can send something known as "Inter-Processor
Interrupts" or IPIs. As the name suggests, this is a mechanism for one
processor to interrupt another processor in the system. Note that this
mechanism can be used by any processor to talk to any other processor in
the system (no distinction between BSP and APs here).

To kick-start the APs, the BSP sends INIT IPI to each AP in turn, waits for
some time for the IPI to be delivered to the AP and then checks if that AP
booted up. Based on the version of the APIC used, the BSP might have to send
2 STARTUP IPIs to the APs with some time delay after each of the IPIs.
[ If you have discrete APICs (i.e., 82489DX APIC) then INIT IPI will do. If
you have integrated APIC, you need to send two STARTUP IPIs. ]
All this is in accordance with the "Universal Start-up Algorithm" to start
APs, as specified by Intel architecture. These IPIs cause an INIT at the AP
to which it was delivered.

Now the question is, how do you make the APs to execute a particular piece
of code (i.e., jump to a specified location) on start-up?
We know that whenever a processor starts after a RESET or INIT, it starts
executing code from the reset vector (a predefined location).
However if you want a processor to immediately jump to an address that you
have specified, you must use the INIT IPI as part of a "warm-reset".
Warm-reset allows you to send INIT signal to a processor without causing
the processor to go through the entire BIOS initialization (POST -- see
below for details) and then start the processor's execution at the
warm-reset-vector.

By putting the appropriate pointer (i.e., pointer to the AP start-up code)
in the warm-reset-vector (system RAM location 40:67h), setting the BIOS
shutdown code to 0Ah (which tells the BIOS that this INIT is part of a
warm-reset) and then causing an INIT at the processor (via the IPIs), the
Operating System can cause the processor to jump immediately to any location
and start executing that code. This is how the BSP can boot the APs and make
them execute some particular piece of code (in this case, the AP start-up
code as designed in the OS).

It would be worthwhile to understand what would be the state of the system
(and the APs) before the Operating System gets control from the BIOS after
switching ON the machine. The BIOS, upon system start, performs a procedure
known as POST (Power-On Self Test). This is to check the status of all the
components/circuitry of the system, including the processors, to ensure that
they are all functioning properly. During this phase the BIOS initializes
all the circuitry (including all the APICs and the processors) to some known
configuration and then puts all the APs to the HALT state with interrupts
disabled. This is to ensure that the APs don't execute Operating System code
(we want only the BSP to execute the OS code initially). Then the BSP starts
executing OS code.

To boot APs, the BSP sends IPIs to them. But IPIs are non-maskable (note
that the APs were in HALT state, with interrupts disabled). Hence the BSP
will be able to kick-start AP execution and by using the warm-reset
mechanism, it can direct the APs to execute some particular piece of code at
startup. The BSP would have put a pointer to that AP start-up code in the
warm-reset-vector address before sending the INIT or STARTUP IPIs to the
APs.

You might be wondering how does the BSP specify to its local APIC as to
which AP it must send an IPI to..
The answer is simple. During BIOS POST, an MP (Multi-Processor)
Configuration Table will be set up (in conjunction with BSP and APs) in a
well-known region of memory, which will be read by the OS during boot up.
This table contains the local APIC IDs of all the processors.
So, while sending the targeted IPIs using its local APIC, the BSP specifies
the local APIC ID of the target AP which it wants to interrupt (and boot in
this case). This ensures the delivery of the IPI to the correct AP.

In short, this is how a Multi-Processor system gets rolling ... :-)

For more details you can refer:

1. Intel Multi-Processor Specification, especially Appendix A and B.
    http://www.intel.com/design/pentium/datashts/242016.htm


2. linux/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c :
    do_boot_cpu(), wakeup_secondary_cpu_via_init(), native_cpu_up(),
start_secondary()

3. linux/arch/x86/kernel/head_32.S:
    startup_32_smp()

4. linux/arch/x86/kernel/trampoline_32.S

5. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux-i386-Boot-Code-HOWTO/smpboot.html

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat
 Srivatsa, you are awsome!  Thanks a lot!!
I am just wondering what all is required to gain this depth of knowledge :)

Thanks
Vaibhav Jain
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