Le 1 oct. 2025 à 19:44, brian m. carlson [off-list ref] a écrit :

On 2025-10-01 at 18:59:31, Chuck Wolber wrote:

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AI is not going away, and we need to find a way to use it productively
_without_ losing our sense of self-reliance. If we fail to develop this ability
when AI is hardly more skilled than an above average intern, full of hubris and
zero real world experience, imagine how unqualified we will be when AI becomes
competent enough to manipulate and mislead us?

I think you assume LLMs can have intelligence.  They are glorified
prediction engines, effectively fancy Markov chains.  In some cases,
that can be useful and valuable and we can do interesting things with
them, but they cannot actually have intelligence, creativity or reason.

And LLMs already manipulate and mislead people.  They have been
implicated in goading teenagers to suicide or leading people into
conspiracy theories.  Some LLMs espouse racist, anti-Semitic, or
otherwise hateful views.  That's a good reason to be wary of them and
how they're incorporated to our lives, at least until such a time that
they have appropriate safety measures and regulation in place (if that
ever happens).

A tangent, and one I’m happy to continue but off-list (I’m happy to continue publicly, but this is not the forum): I’d encourage folks to give the LLMentalist Effect [1] a read. Regardless of where you fall on “intelligence vs stochastic parrot,” I think you’ll find some interesting conclusions.

[1]: https://softwarecrisis.dev/letters/llmentalist