Re: [Summit topic] Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc)

On Thu, Oct 21 2021, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 01:57:11PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:

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 2. Dscho said he’s not able to follow everything on the mailing list

    1. if you have just one patch you send, reply-all works okay

    2. mailing list works reasonably well if you’re someone like Junio, working
       on it full time, has good mail filters, keeps up to date with everything

    3. If you’re in-between, does not work well

This is a problem that's not actually unique to mailing lists. If you have any
project that is popular enough, at some point it reaches critical mass where
developer/user feedback becomes too much for anyone to keep up. Github
projects aren't immune to this either, but they do have a benefit of providing
an easy interface for someone to apply categorization to issues/discussions.

I'd like to use this mail as a good jump-off point to link to my "how"
v.s. "what" E-Mail from when this was last discussed. I think I
mentioned it in passing at the recent summit:

https://lore.kernel.org/git/87fszd3xo0.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/ (local)

Especially as...

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    13. Junio: Not really. The extra tracking conversations are not as
        important to me. I think it’s a feature that if someone requests a
        feature and nothing happens for a while that it no longer produces
        overhead for people is a useful feature. That kind of old filtering
        feature is sometimes valuable.

I find that if there's no mailing list integration, then bugzilla generally
rots after the initial person getting the bug reports moves on. Then bugs
reported via bugzilla just sit there without anyone paying attention. At least
when bug reports get sent to the list, the ensuing discussions get reflected
in both the list archives and in bugzilla.

...it makes a passive mention to this "forgetting as a feature" aspect
of not having a bug tracker.

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    16. I’m also happy to work with kernel.org admins to get this set up for us
        if that’s what we want

Consider this part done. :)

And thank you for your contribution to kernel.org infrastructure.