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Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] Implement a batched fsync option for core.fsyncObjectFiles

From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <hidden>
Date: 2021-09-08 19:31:35

On Wed, Sep 08 2021, Neeraj Singh wrote:
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:44 PM Junio C Hamano [off-list ref] wrote:
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Neeraj Singh [off-list ref] writes:
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BTW, I updated the github PR to enable batch mode everywhere, and all
the tests passed, which is good news to me.
I doubt that fsyncObjectFiles is something we can reliably test in
CI, either with the new batched thing or with the original "when we
close one, make sure the changes hit the disk platter" approach.  So
I am not sure what conclusion we should draw from such an experiment,
other than "ok, it compiles cleanly."  After all, unless we cause
system crashes, what we thought we have written and close(2) would
be seen by another process that we spawn after that, with or without
sync, no?
The main failure mode I was worried about is that some test or other part
of Git is relying on a loose object being immediately available after it is
added to the ODB. With batch mode, the loose objects aren't actually
available until the bulk checkin is unplugged.

I agree that it is not easy to test whether the data is actually going
to durable
storage at the expected time.  FWIW, I did take a disk IO trace on Windows to
verify that we are issuing disk writes and flushes at the right time.
But that's a
one-time test that would be hard to make automated.
I have some semi-related patches I need to dig up and finish sometime
which add a "git gc" test mode to the test suite, i.e. any time we call
"git gc --auto" it will go ahead and actually run, and some adversarial
options to run always, right away, prune with --expire=now. It found
some false positives, but also some genuine races and bugs at the time.

Similarly, I think a good longer term goal for better fsync() and data
integrity in git is to refactor the various codepaths where we write to
disk (grepping for fsync_or_die() is a good start to find those) to all
live in one place, we could then easily instrument that code to run in a
hostile test mode.

E.g. make anything that expects to write out a "foo" file actually write
out "foo.not-synced-yet" as long as fsync() etc. hasn't been called, or
with signals/timers/atexit() handlers fake up known FS edge cases such
as a write of "foo" only renaming "foo.not-synced-yet" to "foo" 1s after
the last close() call not followed by an fsync, etc.

Anyway, I expect given your occupation that you may have better ideas in
that area, presumably needing to instrument and test behavior under I/O
pressure, deferred syncs etc. is something mature FS's need to deal with
as part of their own regression tests...

1. https://lore.kernel.org/git/cover-v2-0.4-0000000000-20210908T003631Z-avarab@gmail.com/ (local)
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