From: Felipe Contreras <hidden> Date: 2021-06-11 20:28:27
We generally avoid specifying the gender of our users in order to be
more politically correct, but sometimes due to lack of time and/or
creativity a few slip by.
Since by doing a little bit of rewording we can avoid this irrelevant
detail, let's do so.
Inspired-by: Derrick Stolee [off-list ref]
Helped-by: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [off-list ref]
Signed-off-by: Felipe Contreras <redacted>
---
commit.c | 2 +-
config.h | 4 ++--
date.c | 2 +-
pathspec.h | 2 +-
strbuf.h | 4 ++--
wt-status.c | 2 +-
6 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
From: Felipe Contreras <hidden> Date: 2021-06-11 20:28:42
Some people have a problem with using a female reviewer or a female
developer as an example, and since this is an irrelevant detail, let's
say goodbye to our illustrative female colleagues.
Inspired-by: Derrick Stolee [off-list ref]
Signed-off-by: Felipe Contreras <redacted>
---
Documentation/SubmittingPatches | 5 ++---
Documentation/git-push.txt | 4 ++--
Documentation/user-manual.txt | 2 +-
3 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
@@ -373,9 +373,8 @@ If you like, you can put extra tags at the end: . `Acked-by:` says that the person who is more familiar with the area the patch attempts to modify liked the patch. . `Reviewed-by:`, unlike the other tags, can only be offered by the- reviewer and means that she is completely satisfied that the patch- is ready for application. It is usually offered only after a- detailed review.+ reviewers themselves when they are completely satisfied with the+ patch after a detailed analysis. . `Tested-by:` is used to indicate that the person applied the patch and found it to have the desired effect.
@@ -244,8 +244,8 @@ Imagine that you have to rebase what you have already published. You will have to bypass the "must fast-forward" rule in order to replace the history you originally published with the rebased history. If somebody else built on top of your original history while you are-rebasing, the tip of the branch at the remote may advance with her-commit, and blindly pushing with `--force` will lose her work.+rebasing, the tip of the branch at the remote may advance with their+commit, and blindly pushing with `--force` will lose their work. + This option allows you to say that you expect the history you are updating is what you rebased and want to replace. If the remote ref
@@ -2792,7 +2792,7 @@ A fast-forward looks something like this: In some cases it is possible that the new head will *not* actually be a descendant of the old head. For example, the developer may have-realized she made a serious mistake, and decided to backtrack,+realized a serious mistake was made and decided to backtrack, resulting in a situation like: ................................................
Hi Felipe,
On 12/06/21 03.28, Felipe Contreras wrote:
The latest solution looking for a problem [1] is to use the actively
debated among linguists singular "they" [2].
Leaving aside the linguistic intricacies that not all singular "they" are
equal [3], and the overwhelming sentiment that these kinds of political
discussions don't provide value for this community [4], the "issue" can
be easily solved by simply using different wording.
- The reviewer herself
+ The reviewers themselves
Problem solved.
So this patchset avoids any gender pronouns by changing single subject
to many objects (plural), right?
--
An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara
From: Felipe Contreras <hidden> Date: 2021-06-12 01:40:03
Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
Hi Felipe,
On 12/06/21 03.28, Felipe Contreras wrote:
quoted
The latest solution looking for a problem [1] is to use the actively
debated among linguists singular "they" [2].
Leaving aside the linguistic intricacies that not all singular "they" are
equal [3], and the overwhelming sentiment that these kinds of political
discussions don't provide value for this community [4], the "issue" can
be easily solved by simply using different wording.
- The reviewer herself
+ The reviewers themselves
Problem solved.
So this patchset avoids any gender pronouns by changing single subject
to many objects (plural), right?
That is just one example. A good writer like a good programmer uses
different tools for different situations.
Another tool used in this patchset is to make use of the passive voice:
she made a mistake -> a mistake was made. Another is singular "they"
(but used properly). And another is to just completely reword the
offending sentence.
Cheers.
--
Felipe Contreras
From: Robert Karszniewicz <hidden> Date: 2021-06-12 23:24:15
On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 03:28:17PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
The latest solution looking for a problem [1] is to use the actively
debated among linguists singular "they" [2].
Leaving aside the linguistic intricacies that not all singular "they" are
equal [3], and the overwhelming sentiment that these kinds of political
discussions don't provide value for this community [4], the "issue" can
be easily solved by simply using different wording.
- The reviewer herself
+ The reviewers themselves
Problem solved.
Cheers.
Perfect, I like this. This style is clearer, more neutral, and more on
point.
Thanks,
Robert
This looks good to me, especially the reduction in verbosity in hunks
like:
- * parameters to the callback, `strbuf_expand()` passes a context pointer,
- * which can be used by the programmer of the callback as she sees fit.
+ * parameters to the callback, `strbuf_expand()` passes a context
+ * pointer with any kind of data.
The comment gives you the same information, but now it takes a shorter
time to read it.
Some people have a problem with using a female reviewer or a female
developer as an example, and since this is an irrelevant detail, let's
say goodbye to our illustrative female colleagues.
I find this message to be snarky and underhanded instead of
actually describing the goals at hand. Citing the reason as
stated is _not_ the purpose of these gender-neutral
recommendations.
Instead, a message such as this could apply:
Using gendered pronouns for an anonymous person applies a
gender where none is known, and further excludes readers
who do not use gendered pronouns. Avoid such examples in
the documentation by using "they" or passive voice to
avoid the need for a pronoun.
The textual edits in the patch are correct.
-Stolee
We generally avoid specifying the gender of our users in order to be
more politically correct, but sometimes due to lack of time and/or
creativity a few slip by.
s/politically correct/inclusive/
Instead of "lack of time and/or creativity" perhaps be more
generous to our fellow contributors and instead say...
but sometimes a few slip by due to habit.
quoted hunk
@@ -908,7 +908,7 @@ int parse_expiry_date(const char *date, timestamp_t *timestamp) /* * We take over "now" here, which usually translates * to the current timestamp. This is because the user- * really means to expire everything she has done in+ * really means to expire everything that has been done in
nit: s/has been/was/
We can be a little more active here.
-Stolee
From: Felipe Contreras <hidden> Date: 2021-06-15 16:31:05
Derrick Stolee wrote:
On 6/11/2021 4:28 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
quoted
Some people have a problem with using a female reviewer or a female
developer as an example, and since this is an irrelevant detail, let's
say goodbye to our illustrative female colleagues.
I find this message to be snarky and underhanded instead of
actually describing the goals at hand.
But it is accurate.
I have no problem when I read a text that uses a female reviwer as an
illustration. Apparently you do, and presumably others.
Citing the reason as stated is _not_ the purpose of these
gender-neutral recommendations.
I believe the purpose is to tailor the wording to you.
Instead, a message such as this could apply:
Using gendered pronouns for an anonymous person applies a
gender where none is known, and further excludes readers
who do not use gendered pronouns.
It doesn't exclude the readers who do not use genedered pronouns.
Anna--a Finnish reader--may not use gendered pronouns herself, that
doesn't mean she automatically would have a problem when reading "she"
or "he", nor that she would feel excluded.
This patch is not for Anna--who has no problem reading an illustration
in English which uses a female colleague as illustration--this patch is
for you.
Cheers.
--
Felipe Contreras
From: Felipe Contreras <hidden> Date: 2021-06-15 16:36:42
Derrick Stolee wrote:
On 6/11/2021 4:28 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
quoted
We generally avoid specifying the gender of our users in order to be
more politically correct, but sometimes due to lack of time and/or
creativity a few slip by.
s/politically correct/inclusive/
I don't believe avoiding pronouns makes us more inclusive, and I've yet
to see an example where any person would feel personally excluded from.
Instead of "lack of time and/or creativity" perhaps be more
generous to our fellow contributors and instead say...
I believe my wording is more generous because it implies they tried,
whereas yours implies they didn't even try.
but sometimes a few slip by due to habit.
quoted
@@ -908,7 +908,7 @@ int parse_expiry_date(const char *date, timestamp_t *timestamp) /* * We take over "now" here, which usually translates * to the current timestamp. This is because the user- * really means to expire everything she has done in+ * really means to expire everything that has been done in
nit: s/has been/was/
We can be a little more active here.
True. That's probably better.
Cheers.
--
Felipe Contreras
From: Felipe Contreras <hidden> Date: 2021-06-15 16:39:14
Paul Smith wrote:
On Tue, 2021-06-15 at 09:31 -0400, Derrick Stolee wrote:
quoted
but sometimes a few slip by due to habit.
Or perhaps just, "but sometimes a few slip by" ?
No need to suggest a reason IMO.
There's no need, but I would prefer to imply no ill intent, nor neglect,
iow: they tried.
But I'm fine with not specifying a reason too.
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Felipe Contreras