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Re: RFC: auto-enabling parallel-checkout on NFS

From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <hidden>
Date: 2020-11-24 12:58:58

On Tue, Nov 24 2020, Geert Jansen wrote:
Hi Ævar,

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:01:07AM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
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The major downside is that detecting the file system type is quite
platform-dependent, so there is no simple and portable solution. (Also,
I'm not sure if the optimal number of workers would be the same on
different OSes). But we decided to give it a try, so this is a
rough prototype that would work for Linux:
https://github.com/matheustavares/git/commit/2e2c787e2a1742fed8c35dba185b7cd208603de9
I'm not intrinsically opposed to hardcoding some "nr_threads = is_nfs()
? x : y" as a stopgap.

I do think we should be thinking about a sustainable way of doing this
sort of thing, this method of testing once and hardcoding something
isn't a good approach.

It doesn't anticipate all sorts of different setups, e.g. in this case
NFS is not a FS, but a protocol, there's probably going to be some
implementations where parallel is much worse due to a quirk of the
implementation.

I think integrating an optimization run with the relatively new
git-maintenance is a better way forward.

You'd configure e.g.:

    maintenance.performanceTests.enabled=true
    maintenance.performanceTests.writeConfig=true

Which would run e.g.:

    git config --type bool core.untrackedCache $(git update-index --test-untracked-cache && echo true || echo false)
    git config checkout.workers $(git maintenance--helper auto-discover-config checkout.workers)

Such an implementation can be really basic at first, or even just punt
on the test and use your current "is it NFS?" check.

But I think we should be moving to some helper that does the actual test
locally when asked/configured by the user, so we're not making a bunch
of guesses in advance about the size/shape of the repository, OS/nfs/fs
etc.
I like this idea as something that will give the best configuration for a given
repository. I also know from working with customers for a long time that most
users will use the default settings for almost any application, and that
default configurations therefore matter a lot.

The ideal experience would be, in my view, that a clone or checkout would
automatically benefit from parallel checkout, even if this is the first
checkout into a new repository.

Maybe both ideas could be combined? We could have some reasonable heuristic
based on file system type (and maybe number of CPUs) that gives most of the
benefits of paralell checkout, while still being a reasonable compromise that
that works across different NFS servers and file systems. Power users that want
more aggressive tuning could run the maintenance command that measures file
system performance and comes up with an optimal value for checkout.workers.
Yeah, I'm not opposed to it in the least. I just think as a practical
matter it may become a non-issue if we had something like
maintenance.performanceTests.*

Because we eventually run a "gc/maintenance", and there we detach from
the terminal, so we can run something like a find_optimal_nr_threads()
without keeping the user waiting.

If the only reason we had a
find_if_nfs_and_nr_cores_to_guess_nr_threads() was because the more
general find_optimal_nr_threads() took a tad too long when run
interactively then changing where/how it's run would make the
find_if_nfs_and_nr_cores_to_guess_nr_threads() codepath unnecessary.

The "on clone" case is something we have in general with other speedups
& sane defaults. E.g. in making the commit-graph.

I haven't kept up with the latest state of that, but there was
work/discussions on generating that there too in a smart way. E.g. you
clone & we either make it or fork to the background and generate it. So
in practice the user cloning a big repo has sane performance right away
or really soon.

But yeah, fully agreed on that we should ship sane defaults when
possible.

I do think (and I may be wrong here) that in particular with performance
options it's more acceptable to not try as hard by default. A lot of
them don't matter except for some really large repos, and users working
with those tend to be part of some established ecosystem, where e.g. you
clone chromium.git and a script could set up your custom config for you.

But maybe there's common cases I'm not aware of where that assumption
doesn't hold, e.g. (I'm just guessing here) people cloning arbitrary
repos on some VM on Amazon that happens to use NFS, and then wondering
why things are slow.
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