Thread (26 messages) 26 messages, 7 authors, 2019-12-02

Re: [PATCH 1/2] doc: recommend lore.kernel.org over public-inbox.org

From: Eric Wong <hidden>
Date: 2019-11-29 09:59:16

Johannes Schindelin [off-list ref] wrote:
Hi Eric,

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019, Eric Wong wrote:
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Johannes Schindelin [off-list ref] wrote:
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Hi Eric,

On Thu, 28 Nov 2019, Eric Wong wrote:
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Johannes Schindelin [off-list ref] wrote:
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And: if I want to track the latest mails in GitGitGadget, what indication
will I have that I'll need to switch to `.../1`?
You can use the gzipped JSON grokmirror manifest at:
https://lore.kernel.org/git/manifest.js.gz

grokmirror could be a bit of a pain to install because of Python
dependencies, so periodically attempting to clone the next
numbered epoch ought to be fine, too.

I've also considered adding epoch info into
https://lore.kernel.org/git/_/text/config/raw
so shell scripters w/o JSON parsers can use "git config"
I just had a look at its contents:

-- snip --
; example public-inbox config snippet for "git"
; see public-inbox-config(5) manpage for more details:
; https://public-inbox.org/public-inbox-config.html
[publicinbox "git"]
	inboxdir = /path/to/top-level-inbox
	; note: public-inbox before v1.2.0 used "mainrepo"
	; instead of "inboxdir", both remain supported after 1.2
	mainrepo = /path/to/top-level-inbox
	address = git@vger.kernel.org
	listid = git.vger.kernel.org
	filter = PublicInbox::Filter::Mirror
	newsgroup = org.kernel.vger.git
	nntpmirror = nntp://nntp.lore.kernel.org/org.kernel.vger.git
-- snap --

Isn't `inboxdir` and `mainrepo` incorrect?
How so?  It's fine to have both in case users need to downgrade
to older versions of public-inbox.
I must have misinterpreted the purpose of this URL, then. I thought that
was the configuration of _this_ instance, and that I could use the path
indicated by `mainrepo` to replace the `/_/text/config/raw` part of the
URL to get to the repo URL.

Is this just a template file, then?
It's a config snippet that can be copy+pasted into
~/.public-inbox/config and edited to suit the local machine
(but also human-readable and git-config(1)-parseable)

Both "mainrepo" and "inboxdir" refer to local paths, not URLs,
currently.  But it would be nice to access inboxes over WebDAV
or similar :>
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And yes, adding `epoch` information there would be very welcome.
Noted.  Not sure if the "modified" and "fingerprint" keys of
manifest would make sense there, too...
I have no idea what purpose they serve, so I have no opinion on this
question.
They're timestamps and checksums used to reduce the cost of
checking multiple repos for updates.  It's hugely beneficial
when there's 100s or 1000s of repos to mirror.  grokmirror only
makes one HTTP request to get manifest.js.gz, and only runs
fetches for ones that need updating.

It's a less useful for git@vger since there's only one epoch,
currently; and checking for the existence of a next one (1.git)
isn't that expensive.
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