Thread (20 messages) 20 messages, 5 authors, 2019-06-19

Re: [PATCH v2 01/10] t: add helper to convert object IDs to paths

From: Johannes Schindelin <hidden>
Date: 2019-06-18 16:15:51

Hi Hannes,

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, Johannes Sixt wrote:
Am 18.06.19 um 03:29 schrieb brian m. carlson:
quoted
On 2019-06-17 at 19:05:03, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
quoted
I guess it does not *really* matter all that much, but this does spawn a
new process (and I think it actually spawns 4 on Windows, for reasons, and
spawning processes is super expensive on Windows).

We might actually want to think about using something like this instead
(which admittedly looks a bit like gobbledygook to the uninitiated, but it
definitely avoids any spawned process):

test_oid_to_path () {
	echo "${1%${1#??}}/${1#??}"
}
I'm fine making that change. The original design was because we had
other code that used that technique and I didn't see an obviously better
solution. Now you've provided one and a good justification.
Regardless of how it is implemented, I have another gripe with this
helper: the way it must be used requires a process: $(test_out_to_path
$foo)
Indeed.
And looking through this patch series, I see a gazillion of *new*
process substitutions $(test_something...) and $(basename $whatever).
Can't we do something about it?
I wish there was. Unix shell scripting has not evolved much in the past,
what, 3 decades? So I don't really see a way to "pass variables by
reference" to shell functions, short of calling `eval` (which buys
preciously little as it _also_ has to spawn a new process [*1*]).

Of course, if we would slowly get away from depending so much on shell
scripting, then we would reap quite a few other benefits, too, not only
speed, but also much easier debugging, code coverage, etc.

Ciao,
Dscho

Footnote *1*: Theoretically, it could be a *ton* faster by using threads
on Windows. But threads are pretty much an afterthought on Unix/Linux, so
no mainstream POSIX shell supports this. They all `fork()` to interpret an
`eval` as far as I can tell.
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