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Re: [idea] File history tracking hints

From: Johannes Schindelin <hidden>
Date: 2017-09-13 11:38:17

Hi Philip,

On Mon, 11 Sep 2017, Philip Oakley wrote:
From: "Pavel Kretov" <redacted>
quoted
Hi all,

Excuse me if the topic I'm going to raise here has been already discussed
on the mailing list, forums, or IRC, but I couldn't find anything related.


The problem:

Git, being "a stupid content tracker", doesn't try to keep an eye on
operations which happens to individual files; things like file renames
aren't recorded during commit, but heuristically detected later.

Unfortunately, the heuristic can only deal with simple file renames with
no substantial content changes; it's helpless when you:

- rename file and change it's content significantly;
- split single file into several files;
- merge several files into another;
- copy entire file from another commit, and do other things like these.

However, if we're able to preserve this information, it's possible
not only to do more accurate 'git blame', but also merge revisions with
fewer conflicts.


The proposal:

The idea is to let user give hints about what was changed during
the commit. For example, if user did a rename which wasn't automatically
detected, he would append something like the following to his commit
message:

   Tracking-hints: rename dev-vcs/git/git-1.0.ebuild ->
dev-vcs/git/git-2.0.ebuild

or (if full paths of affected files can be unambiguously omitted):

   Tracking-hints: rename git-1.0.ebuild -> git-2.0.ebuild

There may be other hint types:

   Tracking-hint: recreate LICENSE.txt
   Tracking-hint: split main.c -> main.c cmdline.c
   Tracking-hint: merge linalg.py <- vector.py matrix.py

or even something like this:

   Tracking-hint: copy json.py <-
libs/json.py@4db88291251151d8c5c8e4f20430fa4def2cb2ed

If file transformation cannot be described by a single tracking hint, it
shall
be possible to specify a sequence of hints at once:

   Tracking-hint:
       split Utils.java -> AppHelpers.java StringHelpers.java
       recreate Utils.java

Note that in the above example the order of operations really matters, so
both lines have to reside in one 'Tracking-hint' block.

* * *

How do you think, is this idea worth implementing?
Any other thoughts on this?

-- Pavel Kretov.
Maybe use the "interpret-trailers" methods for standardising your hints
locally (in your team / workplace) to see how it goes and flesh out what works
and what doesn't. Trying to decide, a-priori, what are the right hints is
likely to be the hard part.
I think this adds a very valuable insight to this discussion: the current
state of Git's rename handling is based on the idea that you either record
the renames, or you detect them. Like, there is either "on" or "off". No
middle ground.

However, if you understand that there is also the possibility of hints
that can help any erroneous rename detection (and *everybody* who
seriously worked on a massive code base has seen that rename detection
fail in the most inopportune ways [*1*]), then you are on to something.

So I totally like the idea of introducing hints, possibly as trailers in
the commit message (or as refs/notes/rename/* or whatever) that can be
picked up by Git versions that know about them, and can be ignored by Git
versions that insist on the rename detection du jour. With a config option
to control the behavior, maybe, too.

Ciao,
Dscho

Footnote *1*: Just to name a couple of examples from my personal
experience, off the top of my head:

- license boiler plates often let Git detect renames/copies where there
  are none,

- even something as trivial as moving Java classes (and their dependent
  classes) between packages changes every line referring to said packages,
  causing Git's rename detection to go for a drink instead of doing its
  job,

- indentation changes overwhelm Git's rename detection,

- when rename detection would matter most, like, really a lot, to lift the
  burden of the human beings in front of the computer pouring over
  hundreds of thousands of files moved from one directory tree to another,
  that's exactly when Git's rename detection says that there are too many
  files, here are my union rights, I am going home, good luck to you.

In light of such experiences, I have to admit that the notion that the
rename detection can always be improved in hindsight puts quite a bit of
insult to injury for those developers who are bitten by it.
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