Re: [ANNOUNCE] Git Merge Contributors Summit, April 8th, Paris

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Michael J Gruber
[off-list ref] wrote:

Junio C Hamano venit, vidit, dixit 05.03.2015 23:24:

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Christian Couder [off-list ref] writes:

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I'd like the Git project to set up a more organized way to pay back
the travel costs and the conference fee to the developers who come.
For example the Git project could say that it will at least pay back:

- all the travel costs to the 5 most important Git developers who come and ask,
- half the travel costs to the 5 next most important Git developers
who come and ask,
- all the conference fee to the 15 most important Git developers who
come and ask,

I think it could help developers decide to come, and it looks like
enough funding could be available, thanks to GitHub and the GSoC
money. What do you think?

I personally perfer things to be kept informal---it would keep
things simpler for everybody.  You do not have to wonder what you
should do when you think you are among the five most important
people and you also know your employer will pay for the conference
if you asked, for example.

It feels to me that the suggestion Peff gave in his announce to ask
privately for case-by-case arrangement strikes the balance much
better.

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Apart from that it's also possible to find ways to accommodate some
developers for free, if they don't mind crashing in someone's spare
room.

So please don't hesitate to ask if you would like to come.

These five lines, by not explicitly saying something like "the first
2 people who ask can crash in Christian's spare bedroom", is doing
exactly the same thing as Peff did by saying "please talk to me
off-list", it seems to me at least.  Both keep things informal and
simple, and both arrange things on case-by-case basis as needed.

And I think that is better than setting a seemingly hard rules
upfront, and causing more problems unnecessarily (e.g. who decides
who are the 5 most important, for example?).

Oh yes, that would be an interesting metric to define...

OTOH I can see where Christian's question is coming from:
Who is even supposed to ask for support? Not just as in "who is a
developer", but also "what are finance hardships":

At scientific conferences which I'm going to, there is often "support
for those who need it", and that typically means participants from "less
fortunate countries" (to avoid the usual world-counting term). Everyone
else is expected to be covered by their academic employer - and if not,
it's not even okay to ask the organisers. I guess that's what some of us
are having in mind.

I had more in mind the people who mentored GSoC students (and this way
helped the Git project get some money) and the 200 or so developers
who contributed between 10 and 50 patches, though I agree it could
also be useful for others too. As far as I know very few people have
asked for funding and it would be sad that people don't come because
they think they would not be payed back the costs when in fact they
would.

That still leaves the question:
Is there any space left in Christian's spare bedroom? :)

Yes, no one as asked yet, so I shoud be able to accommodate you if you want :-)

See you soon,
Christian.