german translation bug

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german translation bug

From: Wolfgang Rohdewald <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

"Arbeitsverzeichnis leer" means
"working directory empty" which is obviously wrong.

It should say

"Arbeitsverzeichnis sauber"

wr@s5:~/src/linux$ git status
# Auf Zweig drm-intel-testing
Nichts zum Einreichen, Arbeitsverzeichnis leer
wr@s5:~/src/linux$ LANG=C git status
# On branch drm-intel-testing
nothing to commit, working directory clean



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Wolfgang

Re: german translation bug

From: Ralf Thielow <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Wolfgang Rohdewald
[off-list ref] wrote:
"Arbeitsverzeichnis leer" means
"working directory empty" which is obviously wrong.

It should say

"Arbeitsverzeichnis sauber"

wr@s5:~/src/linux$ git status
# Auf Zweig drm-intel-testing
Nichts zum Einreichen, Arbeitsverzeichnis leer
wr@s5:~/src/linux$ LANG=C git status
# On branch drm-intel-testing
nothing to commit, working directory clean
This message is currently translated as "nichts zu committen, Arbeitsverzeichnis
unverändert". Before it was translated as "nichts einzutragen,
Arbeitsverzeichnis sauber".
According to the log of git.git, it was never translated as you wrote,
so it seems
that your system uses a different German translation than upstream Git.
What version of Git do you use? What distro in what version do you use?
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Re: german translation bug

From: Wolfgang Rohdewald <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

Am Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2013, 21:59:10 schrieb Ralf Thielow:
What version of Git do you use? What distro in what version do you use?
freshly installed kubuntu 13.10. The package language-pack-de mentioned
at the end of this mail is installed.

I suppose I should open a KDE bug report?

i5:~ ((unknown)) git --version
git version 1.8.3.2

wr@s5:~/kajongg/src$ grep -a 'Nichts zum Einreichen' /usr/share/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/git.mo 
Nichts zum Einreichen
Nichts zum Einreichen, Arbeitsverzeichnis leer

root@s5:~/kajongg/src# apt-file search /de/ | grep /git.mo
language-pack-de-base: /usr/share/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/git.mo

root@s5:~/kajongg/src# LANG=C dpkg --info /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-de-base_1%3a13.10+20131012_all.deb
 new debian package, version 2.0.
 size 3346634 bytes: control archive=7323 bytes.
     955 bytes,    19 lines      control              
   20278 bytes,   231 lines      md5sums              
     125 bytes,     9 lines   *  postinst             #!/bin/sh
     121 bytes,     9 lines   *  postrm               #!/bin/sh
 Package: language-pack-de-base
 Version: 1:13.10+20131012
 Architecture: all
 Maintainer: Language pack maintainers [off-list ref]
 Installed-Size: 11247
 Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.10.27ubuntu1)
 Depends: locales (>= 2.3.6), language-pack-de (>= 1:13.10+20131012)
 Recommends: firefox-locale-de
 Conflicts: language-pack-de (<< 1:13.10+20131012)
 Replaces: language-pack-de (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-de-base (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-gnome-de (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-gnome-de-base (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-kde-de (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-kde-de-base (<< 1:13.10+20131012)
 Section: translations
 Priority: optional
 Description: translations for language German
  Translation data for all supported packages for:
  German
  .
  This package provides the bulk of translation data and is updated
  only seldom. language-pack-de provides frequent
  translation updates, so you should install this as well.

-- 
Wolfgang

Re: german translation bug

From: Wolfgang Rohdewald <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

Am Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2013, 22:53:29 schrieb Wolfgang Rohdewald:
I suppose I should open a KDE bug report?
I meant a ubuntu bug report of course.

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Re: german translation bug

From: Drew Northup <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Wolfgang Rohdewald
[off-list ref] wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2013, 21:59:10 schrieb Ralf Thielow:
quoted
What version of Git do you use? What distro in what version do you use?
freshly installed kubuntu 13.10. The package language-pack-de mentioned
at the end of this mail is installed.

I suppose I should open a KDE bug report?
Git does not use KDE's language packs.
i5:~ ((unknown)) git --version
git version 1.8.3.2
root@s5:~/kajongg/src# LANG=C dpkg --info /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-de-base_1%3a13.10+20131012_all.deb
What does dpkg report for info about the installed git package (if you
are using the packaged version)?

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-Drew Northup
--------------------------------------------------------------
"As opposed to vegetable or mineral error?"
-John Pescatore, SANS NewsBites Vol. 12 Num. 59

Re: german translation bug

From: Wolfgang Rohdewald <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

Am Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2013, 17:14:31 schrieb Drew Northup:
Git does not use KDE's language packs.
Sorry, I meant ubuntu. I believe I heard before that they tend to replace
upstream translations but I never actually experienced a problem with that.
What does dpkg report for info about the installed git package (if you
are using the packaged version)?
Yes, I am using the packaged version. This package does not contain
any translations.

root@s5:/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg --info git_1%3a1.8.3.2-1_amd64.deb
 neues Debian-Paket, Version 2.0.
 Größe 8034840 Byte: control-Archiv= 15063 Byte.
      34 Byte,     1 Zeilen      conffiles            
    1741 Byte,    30 Zeilen      control              
   32344 Byte,   427 Zeilen      md5sums              
    1570 Byte,    45 Zeilen   *  postinst             #!/bin/sh
    1080 Byte,    35 Zeilen   *  postrm               #!/bin/sh
    2359 Byte,    68 Zeilen   *  preinst              #!/bin/sh
     478 Byte,    12 Zeilen   *  prerm                #!/bin/sh
 Package: git
 Version: 1:1.8.3.2-1
 Architecture: amd64
 Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers [off-list ref]
 Original-Maintainer: Gerrit Pape [off-list ref]
 Installed-Size: 17972
 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.16), libcurl3-gnutls (>= 7.16.2), libexpat1 (>= 2.0.1), libpcre3 (>= 8.10), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.0), perl-modules, liberror-perl, git-man (>> 1:1.8.3.2), git-man (<< 1:1.8.3.2-.)
 Recommends: patch, less, rsync, ssh-client
 Suggests: gettext-base, git-daemon-run | git-daemon-sysvinit, git-doc, git-el, git-email, git-gui, gitk, gitweb, git-arch, git-bzr, git-cvs, git-svn
 Breaks: bash-completion (<< 1:1.90-1), cogito (<= 0.18.2+), git-core (<< 1:1.7.0.4-1.), gitosis (<< 0.2+20090917-7), gitpkg (<< 0.15), gitweb (<< 1:1.7.4~rc1), guilt (<< 0.33), stgit (<< 0.15), stgit-contrib (<< 0.15)
 Replaces: git-core (<< 1:1.7.0.4-1.), gitweb (<< 1:1.7.4~rc1)
 Provides: git-completion, git-core
 Section: vcs
 Priority: optional
 Multi-Arch: foreign
 Homepage: http://git-scm.com/
 Description: fast, scalable, distributed revision control system
  Git is popular version control system designed to handle very large
  projects with speed and efficiency; it is used for many high profile
  open source projects, most notably the Linux kernel.
  .
  Git falls in the category of distributed source code management tools.
  Every Git working directory is a full-fledged repository with full
  revision tracking capabilities, not dependent on network access or a
  central server.
  .
  This package provides the git main components with minimal dependencies.
  Additional functionality, e.g. a graphical user interface and revision
  tree visualizer, tools for interoperating with other VCS's, or a web
  interface, is provided as separate git* packages.

-- 
Wolfgang

Re: german translation bug

From: Drew Northup <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Wolfgang Rohdewald
[off-list ref] wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2013, 17:14:31 schrieb Drew Northup:
quoted
Git does not use KDE's language packs.
Sorry, I meant ubuntu. I believe I heard before that they tend to replace
upstream translations but I never actually experienced a problem with that.
quoted
What does dpkg report for info about the installed git package (if you
are using the packaged version)?
Yes, I am using the packaged version. This package does not contain
any translations.

root@s5:/var/cache/apt/archives# dpkg --info git_1%3a1.8.3.2-1_amd64.deb
 neues Debian-Paket, Version 2.0.
 Package: git
 Version: 1:1.8.3.2-1
 Architecture: amd64
Wolfgang,
My suggestion is to consider compiling Git from sources, as Ubuntu has
stopped applying non-security updates (for the most part) to
13.10--which includes most Git updates. That's the best way to ensure
you get the latest translations checked out, QA'd and submitted by
Ralf.

(I'm probably going to do that with a 13.10 that I have at home when I
get a chance--most likely next week.)

-- 
-Drew Northup
--------------------------------------------------------------
"As opposed to vegetable or mineral error?"
-John Pescatore, SANS NewsBites Vol. 12 Num. 59

Re: german translation bug

From: Ralf Thielow <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Wolfgang Rohdewald
[off-list ref] wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2013, 21:59:10 schrieb Ralf Thielow:
quoted
What version of Git do you use? What distro in what version do you use?
freshly installed kubuntu 13.10. The package language-pack-de mentioned
at the end of this mail is installed.

I suppose I should open a KDE bug report?
The Ubuntu translators have already updated the
German Git translation for 13.10. So the issue should be
fixed in the next language pack update [1].

AFAIK Ubuntu ships the translations aside software packages
that they're able to update l10n without updating the software
itself.
They also maintain the translations for themselves. Issues that's
been reported to them also getting fixed by them. However, those
fixes do not necessarily find their way to upstream Git translations.
The benefit of reporting issues to Git ML is that they can be fixed
in both upstream Git and Ubuntu. I'll try to keep an eye to launchpad
and fix bugs in German translation reported on the ML on both places
in the future.

Thanks for reporting the issue.

[1]
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/git/+pots/git/de/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=nothing+to+commit%2C+working+directory+clean
i5:~ ((unknown)) git --version
git version 1.8.3.2

wr@s5:~/kajongg/src$ grep -a 'Nichts zum Einreichen' /usr/share/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/git.mo
Nichts zum Einreichen
Nichts zum Einreichen, Arbeitsverzeichnis leer

root@s5:~/kajongg/src# apt-file search /de/ | grep /git.mo
language-pack-de-base: /usr/share/locale-langpack/de/LC_MESSAGES/git.mo

root@s5:~/kajongg/src# LANG=C dpkg --info /var/cache/apt/archives/language-pack-de-base_1%3a13.10+20131012_all.deb
 new debian package, version 2.0.
 size 3346634 bytes: control archive=7323 bytes.
     955 bytes,    19 lines      control
   20278 bytes,   231 lines      md5sums
     125 bytes,     9 lines   *  postinst             #!/bin/sh
     121 bytes,     9 lines   *  postrm               #!/bin/sh
 Package: language-pack-de-base
 Version: 1:13.10+20131012
 Architecture: all
 Maintainer: Language pack maintainers [off-list ref]
 Installed-Size: 11247
 Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.10.27ubuntu1)
 Depends: locales (>= 2.3.6), language-pack-de (>= 1:13.10+20131012)
 Recommends: firefox-locale-de
 Conflicts: language-pack-de (<< 1:13.10+20131012)
 Replaces: language-pack-de (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-de-base (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-gnome-de (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-gnome-de-base (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-kde-de (<< 1:13.10+20131012), language-pack-kde-de-base (<< 1:13.10+20131012)
 Section: translations
 Priority: optional
 Description: translations for language German
  Translation data for all supported packages for:
  German
  .
  This package provides the bulk of translation data and is updated
  only seldom. language-pack-de provides frequent
  translation updates, so you should install this as well.

--
Wolfgang

Re: german translation bug

From: Jonathan Nieder <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

Hi,

Wolfgang Rohdewald wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2013, 22:53:29 schrieb Wolfgang Rohdewald:
quoted
I suppose I should open a KDE bug report?
I meant a ubuntu bug report of course.
Yes, please.  Feel free to cc me if doing so.

In generally, I'm a bit uncomfortable lately at how Ubuntu's
translation system works for Git.  They are trying to solve a real
problem: old Ubuntu releases stick to old versions of git that do not
have as complete translations as the latest version.  But their
solution to this problem does not seem to work well and creates a lot
of confusion.  Worse, it creates duplicated effort, as their custom
translations don't seem to have been submitted upstream for review or
inclusion.

Re: german translation bug

From: Jiang Xin <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:59:30

2013/12/27 Ralf Thielow [off-list ref]:
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Wolfgang Rohdewald
[off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
Am Mittwoch, 25. Dezember 2013, 21:59:10 schrieb Ralf Thielow:
quoted
What version of Git do you use? What distro in what version do you use?
freshly installed kubuntu 13.10. The package language-pack-de mentioned
at the end of this mail is installed.

I suppose I should open a KDE bug report?
The Ubuntu translators have already updated the
German Git translation for 13.10. So the issue should be
fixed in the next language pack update [1].

AFAIK Ubuntu ships the translations aside software packages
that they're able to update l10n without updating the software
itself.
They also maintain the translations for themselves. Issues that's
been reported to them also getting fixed by them. However, those
fixes do not necessarily find their way to upstream Git translations.
The benefit of reporting issues to Git ML is that they can be fixed
in both upstream Git and Ubuntu. I'll try to keep an eye to launchpad
and fix bugs in German translation reported on the ML on both places
in the future.

Thanks for reporting the issue.

[1]
https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/git/+pots/git/de/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=nothing+to+commit%2C+working+directory+clean
I reported the same issue recently, and you can see reply from
Canonical in this thread:

* http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/239130

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