Thread (9 messages) flat view 9 messages, 3 authors, 2016-06-15

Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] Make boundary characters for --color-words configurable

From: Ping Yin <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:44:34

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Junio C Hamano [off-list ref] wrote:
"Ping Yin" [off-list ref] writes:

 > For this example,both "/if/while/ (i />/>=/ /1/0/)" and  "/if/while/
 > (i >//=/ /1/0/)" are fine to me.

 For the particular example, both are Ok, but for this other example:

        -if (i > 1...
        +if ((i > 1...

 it probably is better to treat each non-word character as a separate
 token, that is, it would be easier to read if we said "( stayed intact,
 and another ( was added", instead of saying "( is changed to ((".

 So "a run of punct chars" rule only sometimes produces better output but
 otherwise worse output, and to make it produce better output consistently,
 we would need to know the syntax of the target language for tokenization,
 i.e. ">=" and ">" are comparison operators, while "(" is a token and "(("
 is better split into two open-paren tokens.

 So as a very longer term subproject, we may want to teach the mechanism
 language specific tokenization rules, just like we can specify the hunk
 header pattern via gitattributes(5) to the diff output layer.

 Of course, I do not expect you to do that during this round --- and if we
 choose to keep the rule simple, I think it is probably better to use
 one-char-one-token rule for now.


 > And when designing, i think it's better to take multi-byte characters
 > into account. For multi-byte characters (especially CJK), every
 > character should be considered as a token.

 If we take an idealistic view for the longer term, we should be tokenizing
 even CJK sensibly, but unlike Occidental scripts, we cannot even use
 inter-word spacing for tokenizing hint, so unless we are willing to learn
 morphological analysis (which we are not for now), the best we can do is
 to use one-char-one-token rule.

        Side Note.  For Japanese we could cheat and often do a slightly
        better job than simple one-char-one-token without having full
        morphological analysis by splicing between Kanji and Kana
        boundaries, but I'd prefer not to go there and keep the rules we
        would use to the minimum.

 I should stress that I said "character" in the above "punct" and "CJK"
 discussions, not "byte".
The one-char-one-token and multi-char-one-token rules may have
different implementation issues. I think multi-char-one-token rule may
be more representative. So for the current time, i prefer considering
both run of word characters and single non-word character as a token.



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Ping Yin
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