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Re: [ANNOUNCE] GIT 1.5.3-rc4

From: Bruce Korb <hidden>
Date: 2016-06-15 22:43:27

Linus Torvalds wrote:
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Yes, name-calling and ad hominem attacks again.
No. Emacs _is_ odd. It's not even installed by default on most modern 
Linux distributions.
Hi Linus,

Thus disparaging distributions that do install it.  I've not had
to pull any extra packages to get it so far, but I only update
every few years.  I've been a happy emacs user for 24 years.
There's no name-calling there. That's just a solid fact.
The name calling is unseemly on all sides.
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Please try to remember that Texinfo is a _source_ format, and it
produces reasonably hyperrefed and coherent PDF and HTML documents as
well as plain ASCII.  That it is also able to produce working info
files should not bother you.
You do not even know what you are talking about.

AsciiDoc is *also* a source format. But the source format is already 
readable IN ITSELF. Which is the whole point!
Readable, just not writable.  It's markup language is a bunch
of special characters that require familiarity to understand.
Sure, you can peruse the text just fine, but why should this
sort of thing:

   = My Doc Title =

be preferred to:

    @settitle My Doc Title

@chapter, @section, @subsection really make a lot more sense to me
than this sort of cruft (my disparaging term):
Level 0 (top level):     ======================
Level 1:                 ----------------------
Level 2:                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Level 3:                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Level 4 (bottom level):  ++++++++++++++++++++++

It really boils down to preferences and familiarity and should
not degenerate into nasty name calling.
Headers? Lists? They look like headers and lists in the .txt files. No 
need to think about it as a reader. 
So do well-formatted .texi docs.  I don't really like anything
other than WYSIWYG, but that doesn't lend it self to reformatting
into man pages et al.
See? Texinfo is decidedly inferior. But you don't have to take it so 
personally. So is pretty much anything else. Anything XML/SGML is even 
*worse*.
Bah!  They all have their drawbacks and preferences are going to weight
drawbacks differently.

So let's all dislike all our choices, eh?  Cheers - Bruce
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