Re: Rss produced by git is not valid xml?

On Friday 18 November 2005 23:30, you wrote:

On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Kay Sievers wrote:

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Actually, the real bug is not to try to prevent binary nonsense in
textual commit logs, which are distibuted. Remember, that you provide a
SCM not a filesystem.

I never said they were text, and in fact, I never even said I'm doing an
SCM. Quite the reverse. I very much said that I'm doing a filesystem that
is flexible.

The fact that the headers are text-like is not so much about text as it is
about flexibility and easy tool access. If you look at the git object
format, for example, the header is strictly NUL-terminated ASCII, but the
object itself is a pure binary data stream. Which obviously just _happens_
to often be text too, since quite often the object contents is something
like a C source file, but there's a real power to _not_ thinking that it
means that files are text-files.

And I like UTF-8, but the fact is, all my editors and mail tools are still
Latin-1. My editor converts the UTF-8 input into latin1 and keeps it in
that format on disk (it writes it to the _screen_ as UTF-1 just to make
the glyphs come out right, but the file it works with is still latin1).

Could I change? Yup, I could change pretty easily. I wrote the code that
did the latin1 conversion, and I've got source for my tools, so I could
just decide one day that I'll join the 21st century and switch. I just
haven't done so yet.

The fact that _I_ can't be bothered, even though I'm in just about the
best possible situation (I've got a keyboard with åäö on it, but they're
not in my name, so I don't use them that much) should tell you something.
Namely, it should tell you that there's a _lot_ of people who have a much
harder time than I do in changing their setups.

I think most of Asia _still_ doesn't use utf-8. And I _guarantee_ you that
it's a hell of a lot easier for you to complain about it and say "they
should" than it is for them to actually do so and convert all the programs
they use.

On this mailing list, the only person that I've seen pipe up about these
things in the past _and_ that I suspect actually has to work with this
thing in real life (instead of just from a theoretical "this is how things
should be done" standpoint) is Junio. And last I heard (if I remember
correctly), Junio explicitly said that a lot of the people he works with
still use shift-jis.

And I'm not surprised. Look on the web. As far as I know, shift-jis is
still much more common than utf-8.

AND IT DOESN'T MATTER ONE WHIT WHEN SOME GEEK SAYS "THEY SHOULDN'T DO
THAT, THEN"!

Software should conform to people, not the other way around.

Linus,

I got your point. But the XML should reflect the data it contains. This _is_ 
my problem. Will the data be latin-1, OK then  the xml should say its latin-1 
and not lie as utf-8. 

Regards,
ismail