Re: [dpdk-dev] [RFC 3/5] eal: lcore state FINISHED is not required
From: Honnappa Nagarahalli <hidden>
Date: 2021-03-30 02:54:35
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- 2021-02-24 · [dpdk-dev] [RFC 3/5] eal: lcore state FINISHED is not required · Honnappa Nagarahalli <hidden>
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Hi everyone,
Thanks Konstantin for the review.
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Subject: [RFC 3/5] eal: lcore state FINISHED is not required FINISHED state seems to be used to indicate that the worker's update of the 'state' is not visible to other threads. There seems to be no requirement to have such a state.I am not sure "FINISHED" is necessary to be removed, and I propose some of my profiles for discussion. There are three states for lcore now: "WAIT": indicate lcore can start working "RUNNING": indicate lcore is working "FINISHED": indicate lcore has finished its working and wait to be resetIf you look at the definitions of "WAIT" and "FINISHED" states, they looksimilar, except for "wait to be reset" in "FINISHED" state . The code really does not do anything to reset the lcore. It just changes thestate to "WAIT". I agree that 3 states here seems excessive. Just 2 (RUNNING/IDLE) seems enough. Though we can't just remove FINISHED here - it will be an Abi breakage. Might be deprecate FINISHED now and remove in 21.11.
Agree, will add a new patch to deprecate the FINISHED state. Also, does the deprecation notice need to go into 20.08 release notes?
Also need to decide what rte_eal_wait_lcore() should return in that case? Always zero, or always status of last function called?
I am not sure why ' rte_eal_wait_lcore' has the following code:
if (lcore_config[worker_id].state == WAIT)
return 0;
This indicates that the caller has called 'rte_eal_wait_lcore' function earlier. May be there is a use case where there are multiple threads waiting for the lcores to complete?
Anyway, IMO, returning the status of the last function always is better for this API.
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From the description above, we can find "FINISHED" is different from "WAIT", it can shows that lcore has done the work and finishedit.quoted
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Thus, if we remove "FINISHED", maybe we will not know whether the lcore finishes its work or just doesn't start, because this two state has thesame tag "WAIT".quoted
Looking at "eal_thread_loop", the worker thread sets the state to"RUNNING"quoted
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before sending the ack back to main core. After that it is guaranteed that the worker will run the assigned function. Only case where it will not run the assigned function is when the 'write' syscall fails, in which case it results in a panic. Quick note: it should not panic. We must find a way to return an error without crashing the whole application.The syscalls are being used to communicate the status back to the mainthread. If they fail, it is not possible to communicate the status.quoted
May be it is better to panic. We could change the implementation using shared variables, but it would require polling the memory. May be the syscalls are being used toavoid polling. However, this polling would happen during init time (or similar) for a short duration. AFAIK we use read and write not for status communication, but sort of sleep/ack point. Though I agree if we can't do read/write from the system pipe then something is totally wrong, and probably there is no much point to continue.quoted
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Furthermore, consider such a scenario: Core 1 need to monitor Core 2 state, if Core 2 finishes one task, Core 1 can start its working. However, if there is only one tag "WAIT", Core 1 maybe start its work at the wrong time, when Core 2 still does not start its task at state"WAIT".quoted
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This is just my guess, and at present, there is no similar application scenario in dpdk.To be able to do this effectively, core 1 needs to observe the state changefrom WAIT->RUNNING->FINISHED. This requires that core 1 should be calling rte_eal_remote_launch and rte_eal_wait_lcore functions. It is not possible to observe this state transition from a 3rd core (for ex: a worker might go from RUNNING->FINISHED->WAIT->RUNNING which a 3rd core might not beablequoted
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RUNNING->FINISHED->WAIT->to observe).quoted
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On the other hand, if we decide to remove "FINISHED", please consider the following files: 1. lib/librte_eal/linux/eal_thread.c: line 31 lib/librte_eal/windows/eal_thread.c: line 22 lib/librte_eal/freebsd/eal_thread.c: line 31I have looked at these lines, they do not capture "why" FINISHED state isrequired.quoted
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lib/librte_eal/include/rte_launch.h: line 24, 44, 121, 123, 131 3. examples/l2fwd- keepalive/main.c: line 510 rte_eal_wait_lcore(id_core) can be removed. Because the core state has been checked as "WAIT", this is a redundant operation