Re: [RFC 0/5] forced comounts for cgroups.

On 09/05/2012 01:46 AM, Tejun Heo wrote:

Hello, Glauber.

On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 06:18:15PM +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:

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As we have been extensively discussing, the cost and pain points for cgroups
come from many places. But at least one of those is the arbitrary nature of
hierarchies. Many people, including at least Tejun and me would like this to go
away altogether. Problem so far, is breaking compatiblity with existing setups

I am proposing here a default-n Kconfig option that will guarantee that the cpu
cgroups (for now) will be comounted. I started with them because the
cpu/cpuacct division is clearly the worst offender. Also, the default-n is here
so distributions will have time to adapt: Forcing this flag to be on without
userspace changes will just lead to cgroups failing to mount, which we don't
want.

Although I've tested it and it works, I haven't compile-tested all possible
config combinations. So this is mostly for your eyes. If this gets traction,
I'll submit it properly, along with any changes that you might require.

As I said during the discussion, I'm skeptical about how useful this
is.  This can't nudge existing users in any meaningfully gradual way.
Kconfig doesn't make it any better.  It's still an abrupt behavior
change when seen from userland.

The goal here is to have distributions to do it, because they tend to
have a well defined lifecycle management, much more than upstream. Whoever
sets this option, can coordinate with upstream.

Aside from enforcing it, we can pretty much warn() as well, to direct
people towards flipping the switch.

Also, I really don't see much point in enforcing this almost arbitrary
grouping of controllers.  It doesn't simplify anything and using
cpuacct in more granular way than cpu actually is one of the better
justified use of multiple hierarchies.  Also, what about memcg and
blkcg?  Do they *really* coincide?  Note that both blkcg and memcg
involve non-trivial overhead and blkcg is essentially broken
hierarchy-wise.

Where did I mention memcg or blkcg in this patch ?