Re: [PATCH v14 bpf-next 00/18] mvneta: introduce XDP multi-buffer support
From: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <hidden>
Date: 2021-09-20 21:03:57
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Jakub Kicinski [off-list ref] writes:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 13:53:35 +0200 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:quoted
I'm OK with a bpf_header_pointer()-type helper - I quite like the in-kernel version of this for SKBs, so replicating it as a BPF helper would be great. But I'm a little worried about taking a performance hit. I.e., if you do: ptr = bpf_header_pointer(pkt, offset, len, stack_ptr) *ptr = xxx; then, if the helper ended up copying the data into the stack pointer, you didn't actually change anything in the packet, so you need to do a writeback. Jakub suggested up-thread that this should be done with some kind of flush() helper. But you don't know whether the header_pointer()-helper copied the data, so you always need to call the flush() helper, which will incur overhead. If the verifier can in-line the helpers that will lower it, but will it be enough to make it negligible?Depends on the assumptions the program otherwise makes, right? For reading I'd expect a *layout-independent* TC program would replace approximately: ptr = <some_ptr>; if (ptr + CONST >= md->ptr_end) if (bpf_pull_data(md, off + CONST)) return DROP; ptr = <some_ptr>; if (ptr + CONST >= md->ptr_end) return DROP; /* da hell? */ } With this (pre-inlining): ptr = bpf_header_pointer(md, offset, len, stack); if (!ptr) return DROP; Post-inlining (assuming static validation of args to prevent wraps): if (md->ptr + args->off + args->len < md->ptr_end) ptr = md->ptr + args->off; else ptr = __bpf_header_pointer(md, offset, len, stack); if (!ptr) return DROP; But that's based on guesswork so perhaps I'm off base.
Yeah, that's more or less what I was thinking...
Regarding the flush() I was expecting that most progs will not modify the packet (or at least won't modify most headers they load) so no point paying the price of tracking changes auto-magically.
... but I guess my mental model assumed that packet writes would be just as frequent as reads, in which case it would be a win if you could amend your example like:
In fact I don't think there is anything infra can do better for
flushing than the prog itself:
bool mod = false;
ptr = bpf_header_pointer(...);
...
if (some_cond(...)) {
change_packet(...);
mod = true;
}
...
if (mod)to have an additional check like: if (mod && ptr == stack) (or something to that effect). No? -Toke
bpf_header_pointer_flush(); is simple enough.. to me.