Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next 0/2] bpf: Implement shared persistent fast(er) sk_storoage mode
From: Alexei Starovoitov <hidden>
Date: 2021-08-24 22:15:26
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On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 09:03:20AM -0700, sdf@google.com wrote:
On 08/23, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:quoted
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 05:52:50PM -0400, Hans Montero wrote:quoted
From: Hans Montero <redacted> This patch set adds a BPF local storage optimization. The first patchadds thequoted
feature, and the second patch extends the bpf selftests so that thefeature isquoted
tested. We are running BPF programs for each egress packet and noticed that bpf_sk_storage_get incurs a significant amount of cpu time. Byinlining thequoted
storage into struct sock and accessing that instead of performing amap lookup,quoted
we expect to reduce overhead for our specific use-case.quoted
Looks like a hack to me. Please share the perf numbers and setup details. I think there should be a different way to address performance concerns without going into such hacks.What kind of perf numbers would you like to see? What we see here is that bpf_sk_storage_get() cycles are somewhere on par with hashtable lookups (we've moved off of 5-tuple ht lookup to sk_storage). Looking at the code, it seems it's mostly coming from the following: sk_storage = rcu_dereference(sk->sk_bpf_storage); sdata = rcu_dereference(local_storage->cache[smap->cache_idx]); return sdata->data We do 3 cold-cache references :-(
Only if the prog doesn't read anything at all through 'sk' pointer, but sounds like the bpf logic is accessing it, so for a system with millions of sockets the first access to 'sk' will pay that penalty. I suspect if you rearrange bpf prog to do sk->foo first the cache miss will move and bpf_sk_storage_get() won't be hot anymore. That's why optimizing loads like this without considering the full picture might not achieve the desired result at the end.
This is where the idea of inlining something in the socket itself came from. The RFC is just to present the case and discuss. I was thinking about doing some kind of inlining at runtime (and fallback to non-inlined case) but wanted to start with discussing this compile-time option first. We can also try to save sdata somewhere in the socket to avoid two lookups for the cached case, this can potentially save us two rcu_dereference's. Is that something that looks acceptable?
Not until there is clear 'perf report' where issue is obvious.
I was wondering whether you've considered any socket storage optimizations on your side?
Quite the opposite. We've refactored several bpf progs to use local storage instead of hash maps and achieved nice perf wins.
I can try to set up some office hours to discuss in person if that's preferred.
Indeed, it's probably the best do discuss it on a call.