Re: NAPI on USB network drivers

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Re: NAPI on USB network drivers

From: Oliver Hartkopp <hidden>
Date: 2017-01-25 13:33:51

On 01/25/2017 10:39 AM, Hayes Wang wrote:
Oliver Neukum [mailto:oneukum-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 5:35 PM
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looking at r8152 I noticed that it uses NAPI. I never considered
this for the generic USB networking code as you cannot disable
interrupts for USB. Is it still worth it? What are the benefits?
You could use napi_gro_receive() and it influences the performance.
Another positive effect with NAPI is that you won't face out-of-order 
ethernet frames as you get with non-NAPI drivers, e.g. ax88179_178a

http://marc.info/?l=linux-can&m=148049063812807&w=2

We have the issue with CAN drivers where all USB drivers and >90% of the 
I/O mapped drivers do not use NAPI.

I wonder whether it makes sense to add NAPI to a driver which only has 
ONE RX buffer ... but when searching for a solution for o-o-o frames I 
was always pointed to NAPI.

Regards,
Oliver

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Re: NAPI on USB network drivers

From: Alexander Duyck <hidden>
Date: 2017-01-25 20:57:06

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:33 AM, Oliver Hartkopp [off-list ref] wrote:
On 01/25/2017 10:39 AM, Hayes Wang wrote:
quoted
Oliver Neukum [mailto:oneukum@suse.com]
quoted
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 5:35 PM
[...]
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looking at r8152 I noticed that it uses NAPI. I never considered
this for the generic USB networking code as you cannot disable
interrupts for USB. Is it still worth it? What are the benefits?

You could use napi_gro_receive() and it influences the performance.

Another positive effect with NAPI is that you won't face out-of-order
ethernet frames as you get with non-NAPI drivers, e.g. ax88179_178a

http://marc.info/?l=linux-can&m=148049063812807&w=2

We have the issue with CAN drivers where all USB drivers and >90% of the I/O
mapped drivers do not use NAPI.

I wonder whether it makes sense to add NAPI to a driver which only has ONE
RX buffer ... but when searching for a solution for o-o-o frames I was
always pointed to NAPI.

Regards,
Oliver
You could probably get around the o-o-o problem by enabling RPS for
the interface.  I have found that it works for me to do that in order
to resolve o-o-o frames generated by VMs on virtual interfaces that
can't use NAPI.

- Alex

Re: NAPI on USB network drivers

From: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
Date: 2017-01-26 18:59:55

On 01/25/2017 09:57 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 5:33 AM, Oliver Hartkopp [off-list ref] wrote:

You could probably get around the o-o-o problem by enabling RPS for
the interface.  I have found that it works for me to do that in order
to resolve o-o-o frames generated by VMs on virtual interfaces that
can't use NAPI.
Sounds promising!

In fact I tried to fix this o-o-o stuff here:

http://marc.info/?l=linux-can&m=143637774606287&w=2

Do you have an example how to do it right?

Best regards,
Oliver
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