# Re: If bridge have no sub-interfaces, it's status may be still with 'RUNNING'

- From: Stephen Hemminger \<stephen@networkplumber.org\>
- Date: 2015-02-16 16:51:40 
- List: netdev
- Page: https://ratatoskr.run/netdev/2015/02/10978161
- Thread: https://ratatoskr.run/netdev/2015/02/10978030/t.md

```text
Originally bridge code would start with carrier off,
but there were users using bridge as a form of dummy device
and this broke them. Therefore it was decided (like 5 yrs ago),
that bridge should start with carrier on.
```