Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-nlmon instead

Hi,

so I am running this command sequence:

	ip link add name nlmon type nlmon
	ip link set dev nlmon up

With that I get this message in dmesg:

Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated). Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-nlmon instead.

The kernel section producing this is dev_load() from net/core/dev_ioctl.c:

        no_module = !dev;                                           
        if (no_module && capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN))                                 
                no_module = request_module("netdev-%s", name);      
        if (no_module && capable(CAP_SYS_MODULE)) {                   
                if (!request_module("%s", name))                              
                        pr_warn("Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).  Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-%s instead.\n",
                                name);                                 
        }

Since I am explicitly giving the name from userspace, I have no idea why the kernel bugs me in providing netdev-nlmon alias. It makes no sense to me. What is the reasoning behind this?

Regards

Marcel

On 08/08/2014 11:22 PM, Marcel Holtmann wrote:

Hi,

so I am running this command sequence:

	ip link add name nlmon type nlmon
	ip link set dev nlmon up

With that I get this message in dmesg:

Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).

 > Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-nlmon instead.

The kernel section producing this is dev_load() from net/core/dev_ioctl.c:

         no_module = !dev;
         if (no_module && capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN))
                 no_module = request_module("netdev-%s", name);
         if (no_module && capable(CAP_SYS_MODULE)) {
                 if (!request_module("%s", name))
                         pr_warn("Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).  Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-%s instead.\n",
                                 name);
         }

Since I am explicitly giving the name from userspace, I have no idea why the

 > kernel bugs me in providing netdev-nlmon alias. It makes no sense to me. What
 > is the reasoning behind this?

Could it just be that your process doesn't have CAP_NET_ADMIN set
but CAP_SYS_MODULE instead thus triggering this pr_warn()?

  grep Cap /proc/$$/status ?

Hm, I don't think this is nlmon related, above works fine on my side.

Hi Daniel,

quoted

so I am running this command sequence:

	ip link add name nlmon type nlmon
	ip link set dev nlmon up

With that I get this message in dmesg:

Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).
Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-nlmon instead.

The kernel section producing this is dev_load() from net/core/dev_ioctl.c:

        no_module = !dev;
        if (no_module && capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN))
                no_module = request_module("netdev-%s", name);
        if (no_module && capable(CAP_SYS_MODULE)) {
                if (!request_module("%s", name))
                        pr_warn("Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).  Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-%s instead.\n",
                                name);
        }

Since I am explicitly giving the name from userspace, I have no idea why the
kernel bugs me in providing netdev-nlmon alias. It makes no sense to me. What
is the reasoning behind this?

Could it just be that your process doesn't have CAP_NET_ADMIN set
but CAP_SYS_MODULE instead thus triggering this pr_warn()?

grep Cap /proc/$$/status ?

Hm, I don't think this is nlmon related, above works fine on my side.

so I have not nlmon.ko loaded or compiled into the kernel. This means the ip command will trigger the autoloading. Command is either run with sudo or as root. So this is not a capability issue.

I think this is just a wrong check when handling loading of modules. I still do not understand how a netdev-%s alias makes any sense. Or even trying to load module nlmon.ko since I created interface nlmon.

The real module loading should also be done in the type and not the name.

Regards

Marcel

On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:23:24 -0700
Marcel Holtmann [off-list ref] wrote:

Hi Daniel,

quoted

quoted

so I am running this command sequence:

	ip link add name nlmon type nlmon
	ip link set dev nlmon up

With that I get this message in dmesg:

Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).
Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-nlmon instead.

The kernel section producing this is dev_load() from net/core/dev_ioctl.c:

        no_module = !dev;
        if (no_module && capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN))
                no_module = request_module("netdev-%s", name);
        if (no_module && capable(CAP_SYS_MODULE)) {
                if (!request_module("%s", name))
                        pr_warn("Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).  Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-%s instead.\n",
                                name);
        }

Since I am explicitly giving the name from userspace, I have no idea why the
kernel bugs me in providing netdev-nlmon alias. It makes no sense to me. What
is the reasoning behind this?

Could it just be that your process doesn't have CAP_NET_ADMIN set
but CAP_SYS_MODULE instead thus triggering this pr_warn()?

grep Cap /proc/$$/status ?

Hm, I don't think this is nlmon related, above works fine on my side.

so I have not nlmon.ko loaded or compiled into the kernel. This means the ip command will trigger the autoloading. Command is either run with sudo or as root. So this is not a capability issue.

I think this is just a wrong check when handling loading of modules. I still do not understand how a netdev-%s alias makes any sense. Or even trying to load module nlmon.ko since I created interface nlmon.

The real module loading should also be done in the type and not the name.

Regards

Marcel

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The netdev module alias is a hold over from the past. For normal device people
used to create a alias eth0 to and point it to the type of network device used, that
was back in the bad old ISA days before real discovery.

Also, the tunnels create module alias for the control device and ip used to use
this to autoload the tunnel device.

The message is bogus and should just be removed, I also see it in a couple of other cases
where tap devices are renamed for  other usese.

Hi Stephen,

quoted

quoted

quoted

so I am running this command sequence:

	ip link add name nlmon type nlmon
	ip link set dev nlmon up

With that I get this message in dmesg:

Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).
Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-nlmon instead.

The kernel section producing this is dev_load() from net/core/dev_ioctl.c:

       no_module = !dev;
       if (no_module && capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN))
               no_module = request_module("netdev-%s", name);
       if (no_module && capable(CAP_SYS_MODULE)) {
               if (!request_module("%s", name))
                       pr_warn("Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).  Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-%s instead.\n",
                               name);
       }

Since I am explicitly giving the name from userspace, I have no idea why the
kernel bugs me in providing netdev-nlmon alias. It makes no sense to me. What
is the reasoning behind this?

Could it just be that your process doesn't have CAP_NET_ADMIN set
but CAP_SYS_MODULE instead thus triggering this pr_warn()?

grep Cap /proc/$$/status ?

Hm, I don't think this is nlmon related, above works fine on my side.

so I have not nlmon.ko loaded or compiled into the kernel. This means the ip command will trigger the autoloading. Command is either run with sudo or as root. So this is not a capability issue.

I think this is just a wrong check when handling loading of modules. I still do not understand how a netdev-%s alias makes any sense. Or even trying to load module nlmon.ko since I created interface nlmon.

The real module loading should also be done in the type and not the name.

The netdev module alias is a hold over from the past. For normal device people
used to create a alias eth0 to and point it to the type of network device used, that
was back in the bad old ISA days before real discovery.

so can we just remove the second request_module for the network interface name here. I find the warning pretty much annoying since especially in cases where the autoloading happens based on RTNL and the type it is just in the wrong order.

I mean, I told you to create this type of interface with this name. So please stop complaining to me ;)

Also, the tunnels create module alias for the control device and ip used to use
this to autoload the tunnel device.

The message is bogus and should just be removed, I also see it in a couple of other cases
where tap devices are renamed for  other usese.

So what is the preferred way. Remove just the warning or the whole request_module of the the network interface name?

Regards

Marcel

On 08/11/2014 10:01 PM, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
...

quoted

quoted

quoted

quoted

so I am running this command sequence:

	ip link add name nlmon type nlmon
	ip link set dev nlmon up

With that I get this message in dmesg:

Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).
Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-nlmon instead.

The kernel section producing this is dev_load() from net/core/dev_ioctl.c:

        no_module = !dev;
        if (no_module && capable(CAP_NET_ADMIN))
                no_module = request_module("netdev-%s", name);
        if (no_module && capable(CAP_SYS_MODULE)) {
                if (!request_module("%s", name))
                        pr_warn("Loading kernel module for a network device with CAP_SYS_MODULE (deprecated).  Use CAP_NET_ADMIN and alias netdev-%s instead.\n",
                                name);
        }

Since I am explicitly giving the name from userspace, I have no idea why the
kernel bugs me in providing netdev-nlmon alias. It makes no sense to me. What
is the reasoning behind this?

Could it just be that your process doesn't have CAP_NET_ADMIN set
but CAP_SYS_MODULE instead thus triggering this pr_warn()?

grep Cap /proc/$$/status ?

Hm, I don't think this is nlmon related, above works fine on my side.

so I have not nlmon.ko loaded or compiled into the kernel. This means the ip command will trigger the autoloading. Command is either run with sudo or as root. So this is not a capability issue.

I think this is just a wrong check when handling loading of modules. I still do not understand how a netdev-%s alias makes any sense. Or even trying to load module nlmon.ko since I created interface nlmon.

The real module loading should also be done in the type and not the name.

The netdev module alias is a hold over from the past. For normal device people
used to create a alias eth0 to and point it to the type of network device used, that
was back in the bad old ISA days before real discovery.

so can we just remove the second request_module for the network interface name here. I find the warning pretty much annoying since especially in cases where the autoloading happens based on RTNL and the type it is just in the wrong order.

I mean, I told you to create this type of interface with this name. So please stop complaining to me ;)

It can btw also be triggered when nlmon is loaded, nlmon device exists
and calling `ip link del dev nlmon` more than once. Given that the
netdev-%s alias was only introduced 'recently' [1], I'd rather just say
to go for Stephen's suggestion to not break some deprecated user space
expectations.

   [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1105168