On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:57:18 +0100, Kay Sievers said:
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 07:42, [off-list ref] wrote:
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Or is this sort of thing in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:25:90:0b:f2:80", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
what you are trying to move to, and my systems are already onboard and
I should just move along, nothing to see here? ;)
Yeah, that's what we did in the past. It works fine if you never have
to swap names like eth0 and eth1, with need to free one of the the
names with a temporary rename.
Well, if I had my druthers, I'd stick name="net-mgt", "net-pub", and "net-10g"
in the udev rules, and not care about 1/2/3 and race conditions, because
meaningful names are easier to not screw up (just last week found a system that
had eth1 and eth2 reversed in some iptables rules, wouldn't have happened if
they were -mgt and -pub).
Only thing stopping me is getting iptables to accept '-i net-10g', and the
distro /etc/sysconfig/network scripts like ifup and ifdown playing nice....
So it sounds like what I want as a sysadmin is the same thing you want
as a maintainer...
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 21:06, [off-list ref] wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:57:18 +0100, Kay Sievers said:
quoted
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 07:42, [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
quoted
Or is this sort of thing in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:25:90:0b:f2:80", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
what you are trying to move to, and my systems are already onboard and
I should just move along, nothing to see here? ;)
Yeah, that's what we did in the past. It works fine if you never have
to swap names like eth0 and eth1, with need to free one of the the
names with a temporary rename.
Well, if I had my druthers, I'd stick name="net-mgt", "net-pub", and "net-10g"
in the udev rules, and not care about 1/2/3 and race conditions, because
meaningful names are easier to not screw up (just last week found a system that
had eth1 and eth2 reversed in some iptables rules, wouldn't have happened if
they were -mgt and -pub).
Only thing stopping me is getting iptables to accept '-i net-10g', and the
distro /etc/sysconfig/network scripts like ifup and ifdown playing nice....
So it sounds like what I want as a sysadmin is the same thing you want
as a maintainer...
Yeah, that sounds very much like it is.
I want to push some responsibility to the admin, do less automagic,
and personally want to be less responsible for all the unintended
screw-up the automagic is causing everywhere.
Sure, the intention to keep the names like they always have been was
good, but a good intention and a broken model to deliver it, and
continue to pretend we can solve it, is the worst things we can do. :)
Kay