From: Michael Neuling <hidden> Date: 2017-10-24 09:20:20
On an unrecoverable HMI or MCE only generate an checkstop (via
PLATFORM ERROR opal reboot call) when panic_on_oops is set.
We currently generate an checkstop as an attempt for the FSP to grab a
dump and then reboot us. Unfortunately this never works and no one
I've talked to has ever seen a resulting dump, let alone got useful
information from it.
Even worse, the checkstop gets in the way of debugging real
problems. If we hit a software bug that results in this, we get no
opportunity to debug it live. Similarly if the bug is due to hardware
that is not in the dump (say PCI or NVLINK GPU), we get no information
in the dump about that hardware.
So let's remove it unless someone sets panic_on_oops.
Signed-off-by: Michael Neuling <redacted>
---
arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/opal-hmi.c | 6 ++++++
arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/opal.c | 4 ++++
2 files changed, 10 insertions(+)
From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> Date: 2017-10-25 10:16:40
Michael Neuling [off-list ref] writes:
On an unrecoverable HMI or MCE only generate an checkstop (via
PLATFORM ERROR opal reboot call) when panic_on_oops is set.
We currently generate an checkstop as an attempt for the FSP to grab a
dump and then reboot us. Unfortunately this never works and no one
Never? WT#.
I've talked to has ever seen a resulting dump, let alone got useful
information from it.
Even worse, the checkstop gets in the way of debugging real
problems. If we hit a software bug that results in this, we get no
opportunity to debug it live. Similarly if the bug is due to hardware
that is not in the dump (say PCI or NVLINK GPU), we get no information
in the dump about that hardware.
So let's remove it unless someone sets panic_on_oops.
Nick just rewrote pnv_platform_error_reboot(), so please talk to him to
make sure you're not stepping on each other.
I don't think we should return.
Otherwise we risk persisting corrupt data to disk and so on.
If we're getting unrecoverable HMI/MCEs that are not actually indicative
of something bad happening then we need to filter those out somewhere.
cheers
From: Michael Neuling <hidden> Date: 2017-10-25 10:59:42
On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 12:16 +0200, Michael Ellerman wrote:
Michael Neuling [off-list ref] writes:
=20
quoted
On an unrecoverable HMI or MCE only generate an checkstop (via
PLATFORM ERROR opal reboot call) when panic_on_oops is set.
=20
We currently generate an checkstop as an attempt for the FSP to grab a
dump and then reboot us. Unfortunately this never works and no one
=20
Never? WT#.
Well no one I've talked but I'm posting this so someone will stand up and s=
ay
they want it.
quoted
I've talked to has ever seen a resulting dump, let alone got useful
information from it.
=20
Even worse, the checkstop gets in the way of debugging real
problems. If we hit a software bug that results in this, we get no
opportunity to debug it live. Similarly if the bug is due to hardware
that is not in the dump (say PCI or NVLINK GPU), we get no information
in the dump about that hardware.
=20
So let's remove it unless someone sets panic_on_oops.
=20
Nick just rewrote pnv_platform_error_reboot(), so please talk to him to
make sure you're not stepping on each other.
=20
I don't think we should return.
=20
Otherwise we risk persisting corrupt data to disk and so on.
ok
If we're getting unrecoverable HMI/MCEs that are not actually indicative
of something bad happening then we need to filter those out somewhere.
We hit this with some new HMIs for NVLINK and the Vector Load one, so we ne=
ed to
handle them, and we have code that does (or is coming).
In the mean while, it's very hard to debug them once we xstop.
Mikey
From: Nicholas Piggin <hidden> Date: 2017-10-25 11:24:08
cc'ing skiboot
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:59:42 +1100
Michael Neuling [off-list ref] wrote:
On Wed, 2017-10-25 at 12:16 +0200, Michael Ellerman wrote:
quoted
Michael Neuling [off-list ref] writes:
quoted
On an unrecoverable HMI or MCE only generate an checkstop (via
PLATFORM ERROR opal reboot call) when panic_on_oops is set.
We currently generate an checkstop as an attempt for the FSP to grab a
dump and then reboot us. Unfortunately this never works and no one
Never? WT#.
Well no one I've talked but I'm posting this so someone will stand up and say
they want it.
quoted
quoted
I've talked to has ever seen a resulting dump, let alone got useful
information from it.
Even worse, the checkstop gets in the way of debugging real
problems. If we hit a software bug that results in this, we get no
opportunity to debug it live. Similarly if the bug is due to hardware
that is not in the dump (say PCI or NVLINK GPU), we get no information
in the dump about that hardware.
So let's remove it unless someone sets panic_on_oops.
Nick just rewrote pnv_platform_error_reboot(), so please talk to him to
make sure you're not stepping on each other.
OK, will do.
I've got nothing really.
I couldn't find out how to do something useful with the crash. My patches
were along the same line as this, which was to make more Linux crash data
printed and try to avoid panic'ing the system when we can recover.
Apparently it does set a firmware log.
Only thing I thought is that it's not really an oops, but a hardware error
(except when it is a software error/oops). I thought it fits
panic_on_unrecovered_nmi better (or we make our own one since that looks
like it's x86 only).
We just need to go through and think about behaviour we want and make it
all consistent. For example right now if we think we can recover the
system because there's an unrecoverable machine check in process context,
then we try to just kill the process (opal_recover_mce()). Someone who
sets the panic_on_ here would like to panic in those cases too probably.
I don't think we should return.
Otherwise we risk persisting corrupt data to disk and so on.
ok
quoted
If we're getting unrecoverable HMI/MCEs that are not actually indicative
of something bad happening then we need to filter those out somewhere.
We hit this with some new HMIs for NVLINK and the Vector Load one, so we need to
handle them, and we have code that does (or is coming).
In the mean while, it's very hard to debug them once we xstop.
The pnv_platform_error_reboot() wasn't able to print anything to
console in that case? I'd like to try improve that if it's not working,
because even in the panic case we should try to get something useful to
console.
Thanks,
Nick
On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 20:20:05 +1100
Michael Neuling [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted hunk
On an unrecoverable HMI or MCE only generate an checkstop (via
PLATFORM ERROR opal reboot call) when panic_on_oops is set.
We currently generate an checkstop as an attempt for the FSP to grab a
dump and then reboot us. Unfortunately this never works and no one
I've talked to has ever seen a resulting dump, let alone got useful
information from it.
Even worse, the checkstop gets in the way of debugging real
problems. If we hit a software bug that results in this, we get no
opportunity to debug it live. Similarly if the bug is due to hardware
that is not in the dump (say PCI or NVLINK GPU), we get no information
in the dump about that hardware.
So let's remove it unless someone sets panic_on_oops.
Signed-off-by: Michael Neuling <redacted>
---
arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/opal-hmi.c | 6 ++++++
arch/powerpc/platforms/powernv/opal.c | 4 ++++
2 files changed, 10 insertions(+)
If panic_on_oops is set, we checkstop, not panic! Passing NULL to die, will
cause arch_uprobe_exception_notify() to complain.
We could respin this a bit and I can send an updated patch if there is interest
Balbir Singh.