Re: [PATCH v1 05/24] clk: wrap I/O access for improved portability

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Re: [PATCH v1 05/24] clk: wrap I/O access for improved portability

From: Russell King - ARM Linux <hidden>
Date: 2013-07-18 09:17:35

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:04:02AM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote:
The common clock API assumes (it's part of the contract) that
there are potentially expensive operations like get, put, prepare
and unprepare, as well as swift and non-blocking operations like
enable and disable.
Let's get something straight here, because what you've said above is
wrong.

1. clk_get() and clk_put() are NOT part of the common clock API.
   They're separate - they're part of the clk API, and the infrastructure
   behind that is clkdev, which is a separately owned thing (by me.)

2. The "contract" of the clk API is defined by the clk API, not by some
   random implementation like the common clock API.  The clk API is
   maintained by myself, and is described in include/linux/clk.h

3. clk_prepare() and clk_unprepare() are functions MUST only be called
   from contexts where sleeping is permitted.  These functions MAY sleep
   for whatever reason they require to, and as long as they require to.
   (This is the whole reason these two functions were created in the
   first place.)

4. clk_enable() and clk_disable() MAY be called from any context, but
   MUST never sleep.  If you need to talk over a non-atomic bus for these,
   then these functions should be no-ops, and the code which does that
   must be executed from the clk_prepare()/clk_unprepare() operations.

That is the "clk API" contract.  The CCF has no bearing on this; if it
disagrees, then the CCF is buggy and is non-conformant.

Re: [PATCH v1 05/24] clk: wrap I/O access for improved portability

From: Nicolas Pitre <hidden>
Date: 2013-07-18 17:47:22

On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
1. clk_get() and clk_put() are NOT part of the common clock API.
   They're separate - they're part of the clk API, and the infrastructure
   behind that is clkdev, which is a separately owned thing (by me.)

2. The "contract" of the clk API is defined by the clk API, not by some
   random implementation like the common clock API.  The clk API is
   maintained by myself, and is described in include/linux/clk.h

3. clk_prepare() and clk_unprepare() are functions MUST only be called
   from contexts where sleeping is permitted.  These functions MAY sleep
   for whatever reason they require to, and as long as they require to.
   (This is the whole reason these two functions were created in the
   first place.)

4. clk_enable() and clk_disable() MAY be called from any context, but
   MUST never sleep.  If you need to talk over a non-atomic bus for these,
   then these functions should be no-ops, and the code which does that
   must be executed from the clk_prepare()/clk_unprepare() operations.
Could the above be included in some form in Documentation/clk.txt (this 
is likely one of the first location people look for information) and 
elsewhere if appropriate please?

A *lot* of people are confused by the prepare-enable-disable-unprepare 
sequence and when I try to find some rational for the prepare/enable 
split I can only direct them to mail archive posts since this is nowhere 
to be found in the kernel.

The comments in include/linux/clk.h, while correct, are very terse and 
don't provide any insight to the reason why there is a split in the API.

The content of Documentation/clk.txt does refer to prepare and enable 
(and their counterparts) but again doesn't provide any clue about the 
reason for their existence.

Since there've been several good posts with usage example now buried 
into list archives, I think this would go a long way helping people get 
it right if those were part of the kernel documentation as well.


Nicolas

Re: [PATCH v1 05/24] clk: wrap I/O access for improved portability

From: Mike Turquette <hidden>
Date: 2013-08-02 22:09:35

Quoting Nicolas Pitre (2013-07-18 10:47:22)
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
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1. clk_get() and clk_put() are NOT part of the common clock API.
   They're separate - they're part of the clk API, and the infrastructu=
re
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   behind that is clkdev, which is a separately owned thing (by me.)
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quoted
2. The "contract" of the clk API is defined by the clk API, not by some
   random implementation like the common clock API.  The clk API is
   maintained by myself, and is described in include/linux/clk.h
=
quoted
3. clk_prepare() and clk_unprepare() are functions MUST only be called
   from contexts where sleeping is permitted.  These functions MAY sleep
   for whatever reason they require to, and as long as they require to.
   (This is the whole reason these two functions were created in the
   first place.)
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quoted
4. clk_enable() and clk_disable() MAY be called from any context, but
   MUST never sleep.  If you need to talk over a non-atomic bus for the=
se,
quoted
   then these functions should be no-ops, and the code which does that
   must be executed from the clk_prepare()/clk_unprepare() operations.
=
Could the above be included in some form in Documentation/clk.txt (this =
is likely one of the first location people look for information) and =
elsewhere if appropriate please?
=
A *lot* of people are confused by the prepare-enable-disable-unprepare =
sequence and when I try to find some rational for the prepare/enable =
split I can only direct them to mail archive posts since this is nowhere =
to be found in the kernel.
=
The comments in include/linux/clk.h, while correct, are very terse and =
don't provide any insight to the reason why there is a split in the API.
=
The content of Documentation/clk.txt does refer to prepare and enable =
(and their counterparts) but again doesn't provide any clue about the =
reason for their existence.
=
Since there've been several good posts with usage example now buried =
into list archives, I think this would go a long way helping people get =
it right if those were part of the kernel documentation as well.
I'll update Documentation/clk.txt with more verbosity. The document was
originally intended as a "porting guide" to help migrate from legacy
frameworks to the common struct clk implementation. However the scope of
the document should probably be generalized a bit more.

Regards,
Mike
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Nicolas
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