Random crashes

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Random crashes

From: Giuliano Pochini <hidden>
Date: 2003-08-24 07:24:56

I'm having random crashes on a dualG4 windtunnel and v2.4.22p6. Is there
any known issue ?


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Re: Random crashes

From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Date: 2003-08-24 08:46:29

On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 09:24, Giuliano Pochini wrote:
I'm having random crashes on a dualG4 windtunnel and v2.4.22p6. Is there
any known issue ?
What do you mean by random crash ? Lockups ? Panics ? See anything in
console or logs ? Is this new to this kernel ?

Ben.


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Re: Random crashes

From: Giuliano Pochini <hidden>
Date: 2003-08-24 15:44:08

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:46:29 +0200
Benjamin Herrenschmidt [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
I'm having random crashes on a dualG4 windtunnel and v2.4.22p6. Is there
any known issue ?
What do you mean by random crash ? Lockups ? Panics ? See anything in
console or logs ? Is this new to this kernel ?
Random... lockups, oopses, sig11... but nothing useful because is happens
in random places. Ok, so the answer is no. Maybe the hw is faulty. It's
the only kernel I used on this mac.


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Re: Random crashes

From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Date: 2003-08-24 15:50:17

On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 17:44, Giuliano Pochini wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:46:29 +0200
Benjamin Herrenschmidt [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
quoted
I'm having random crashes on a dualG4 windtunnel and v2.4.22p6. Is there
any known issue ?
What do you mean by random crash ? Lockups ? Panics ? See anything in
console or logs ? Is this new to this kernel ?
Random... lockups, oopses, sig11... but nothing useful because is happens
in random places. Ok, so the answer is no. Maybe the hw is faulty. It's
the only kernel I used on this mac.
Strange. I haven't been reported such problems. Can you try an older kernel
just in case ? Could also be bad ram...

Ben.


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Re: Random crashes

From: Giuliano Pochini <hidden>
Date: 2003-08-27 20:06:27

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:50:17 +0200
Benjamin Herrenschmidt [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
Random... lockups, oopses, sig11... but nothing useful because is happens
in random places. Ok, so the answer is no. Maybe the hw is faulty. It's
the only kernel I used on this mac.
Strange. I haven't been reported such problems. Can you try an older kernel
just in case ? Could also be bad ram...
I tried 2.4.22 and I replaced the RAM. Nothing. Digging in the oops
collection I found this one which doesn't look very nice:

Jul 23 21:37:55 localhost kernel: Machine check in kernel mode.
Jul 23 21:37:55 localhost kernel: Caused by (from SRR1=20009030): L1 Data Cache error

I'll send the machine back for repair, altought I think they'll not even
notice the problem because it happens sporadically :(((


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Re: Random crashes

From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Date: 2003-08-28 08:31:55

On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 22:06, Giuliano Pochini wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:50:17 +0200
Benjamin Herrenschmidt [off-list ref] wrote:
quoted
quoted
Random... lockups, oopses, sig11... but nothing useful because is happens
in random places. Ok, so the answer is no. Maybe the hw is faulty. It's
the only kernel I used on this mac.
Strange. I haven't been reported such problems. Can you try an older kernel
just in case ? Could also be bad ram...
I tried 2.4.22 and I replaced the RAM. Nothing. Digging in the oops
collection I found this one which doesn't look very nice:

Jul 23 21:37:55 localhost kernel: Machine check in kernel mode.
Jul 23 21:37:55 localhost kernel: Caused by (from SRR1=20009030): L1 Data Cache error

I'll send the machine back for repair, altought I think they'll not even
notice the problem because it happens sporadically :(((
Well... I'm not 100% sure the message is correct, though from what you say,
it seems indeed there is a CPU fault...

What CPU is this exactly ? (/proc/cpuinfo)

Ben.


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Re: Random crashes

From: Giuliano Pochini <hidden>
Date: 2003-08-28 13:25:09

On 28-Aug-2003 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
quoted
quoted
Strange. I haven't been reported such problems. Can you try an older kernel
just in case ? Could also be bad ram...
I tried 2.4.22 and I replaced the RAM. Nothing. Digging in the oops
collection I found this one which doesn't look very nice:

Jul 23 21:37:55 localhost kernel: Machine check in kernel mode.
Jul 23 21:37:55 localhost kernel: Caused by (from SRR1=20009030): L1 Data Cache error

I'll send the machine back for repair, altought I think they'll not even
notice the problem because it happens sporadically :(((
Well... I'm not 100% sure the message is correct, though from what you say,
it seems indeed there is a CPU fault...
Yes, but it happened only once. All the others were "normal" segfaults, in both
userspace and kernel space and hard lockups.

What CPU is this exactly ? (/proc/cpuinfo)
processor       : 0
cpu             : 7455, altivec supported
clock           : 1249MHz
revision        : 3.3 (pvr 8001 0303)
bogomips        : 1248.46

processor       : 1
cpu             : 7455, altivec supported
clock           : 1249MHz
revision        : 3.3 (pvr 8001 0303)
bogomips        : 1248.46

total bogomips  : 2496.92
machine         : PowerMac3,6
motherboard     : PowerMac3,6 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
detected as     : 129 (PowerMac G4 Windtunnel)
pmac flags      : 00000000
L2 cache        : 256K unified
memory          : 512MB
pmac-generation : NewWorld

I'm reading the latest 7455 errata
http://e-www.motorola.com/files/32bit/doc/errata/MPC7455CE.pdf
but I don't see anything that can cause L1 errors.


Unrelated thing: tlbli instruction can cause problems on 7455 (bug.20).
arch/ppc/kernel/head.S does not use the suggested workaround.


Bye.
    Giuliano.

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Re: Random crashes

From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Date: 2003-08-28 13:47:06

On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 15:25, Giuliano Pochini wrote:
On 28-Aug-2003 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
quoted
quoted
quoted
Strange. I haven't been reported such problems. Can you try an older kernel
just in case ? Could also be bad ram...
I tried 2.4.22 and I replaced the RAM. Nothing. Digging in the oops
collection I found this one which doesn't look very nice:

Jul 23 21:37:55 localhost kernel: Machine check in kernel mode.
Jul 23 21:37:55 localhost kernel: Caused by (from SRR1=20009030): L1 Data Cache error

I'll send the machine back for repair, altought I think they'll not even
notice the problem because it happens sporadically :(((
Well... I'm not 100% sure the message is correct, though from what you say,
it seems indeed there is a CPU fault...
Yes, but it happened only once. All the others were "normal" segfaults, in both
userspace and kernel space and hard lockups.
Did you try a few things like running single CPU and not enabling IRQ
distribution on all CPUs ?
.../...

Unrelated thing: tlbli instruction can cause problems on 7455 (bug.20).
arch/ppc/kernel/head.S does not use the suggested workaround.
We don't use tlbli on 745x, only on 603s.

Ben.


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