Re: embedded gcc PPC toolchain questions

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Re: embedded gcc PPC toolchain questions

From: Wolfgang Denk <hidden>
Date: 2003-05-29 16:22:38

Dear Ron,

in message [off-list ref] you wrote:
  I have several low-level gcc toolchain questions.  I'm not new to
Umm... did you read the info files for GCC and the GNU linker?
  Apologies in advance if these appear to be a little off-subject.
I welcome redirection to online FAQs or code snippets.  Thanks.
It is definitely useful to read existing code, too. The Linux  kernel
or the U-Boot bootloader are good places to start.
1.  How does one declare distinct data regions with GCC?  Consider
Use __attribute__ ((section("<name>")))
    the case where a separate non-cached memory region is needed
    for CPM/FEC use, I would do something like the following under
    GreenHills C/C++:

     #pragma ghs section data = ".nocacheram"
        static char fec_rbd_alloc[ <some length> ] = { 0 };
        static char fec_tbd_alloc[ <some length> ] = { 0 };
     #pragma ghs section
static char fec_rbd_alloc[ <some length> ] __attribute__ ((section(".nocacheram"))) = { 0 };

etc.

It probably makes sense to define some macros, like this:

#define ___NOCACHERAM__ __attribute__ ((section(".nocacheram")))
...
static char fec_rbd_alloc[ <some length> ] ___NOCACHERAM__ = { 0 };

     Such distinct regions are generally collected and combined
    across modules, so the FEC and CPM drivers would place their
    buffers in the same non-cached area.
Same here.
2.  Once I have defined and declared such regions, how does one
    instruct the linker to align and padd such regions?  Under
    Greenhills, this would be done in a linker control file, such
    as:

     .nocacheram  align(0x1000)   :
     .evtdata     align(0x1000)   :
With GNU ld you will use a linker control file, too.

Something like this:

...
. = ALIGN(4 * 1024);
.nocacheram	:
{
	*(.nocacheram)
}
. = ALIGN(4 * 1024);
...
       This would align ".nocacheram" on a 4kb boundary, and would
      ensure 4Kb length as well (since the following group was also
      4Kb aligned).
Same here.
3.  Once I have defined, declared, and aligned these special memory
    regions, how would I determine their base/length?  Again, under
    GreenHills, we would declare:

      extern char __ghsbegin_nocacheram[];
      extern char __ghsend_nocacheram[];

     Which would provide the 'begin' and 'end' address of the region,
    allowing us to set the appropriate MMU attributes for this user-
    defined area.
You can define symbols in the linker script, too. Like this:

...
. = ALIGN(4 * 1024);
begin_nocacheram	:
{
	*(.nocacheram)
}
end_nocacheram:
. = ALIGN(4 * 1024);
...
4.  I know the question of embedded libc comes up often.  For
    the most part, we basically need the 'strxxx' and 'memxxx'
    functions, but 'sprintf' is quite a different critter.  Since
    we are running an 860, we won't have FP support (and we don't
    want to deal with emulation).  Do most folks use a hand-patched
    'sprintf' source file, manually removing the floating-point ops?
    I've looked into this a few years ago (the gcc sprintf source
    file is a horror).  Has the 'ulibc' that i've heard about been
    used with success by anybody on this list for embedded non-linux
    projects?
Again, have a look at U-Boot and Linux. (U-Boot reuses the Linux code.)
5.  We have access to many Macraigor 'Raven' BDM interfaces.  I've
    downloaded the x86 Linux support tools for this device.  Has
    anybody had good results with this device and support tools
    under Linux?
We prrefer the BDI2000.
6.  OK, please don't flame me on this stupid question.  Does 'as'
    (the assembler) run its source input through the 'cpp' C
    PreProcessor?  I can always pipe through cpp myself with an
    implicit 'make' target if I need to...
"as" does not use "cpp". If you want  to  use  "cpp",  then  you  can
either  use "cpp" in a separate step, or use "gcc" which knows how to
deal with "*.S" source files.

Again, see Linux and U-Boot code for examples.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: embedded gcc PPC toolchain questions

From: Erik Christiansen <hidden>
Date: 2003-06-02 06:26:56

in message [off-list ref] Ron Flory wrote:
4.  I know the question of embedded libc comes up often.  For
    the most part, we basically need the 'strxxx' and 'memxxx'
    functions, but 'sprintf' is quite a different critter.  Since
    we are running an 860, we won't have FP support (and we don't
    want to deal with emulation).  Do most folks use a hand-patched
    'sprintf' source file, manually removing the floating-point ops?
    I've looked into this a few years ago (the gcc sprintf source
    file is a horror).  Has the 'ulibc' that i've heard about been
    used with success by anybody on this list for embedded non-linux
    projects?
Ron,

   We're happily using newlib's sprintf on the mpc850, in a piece of
   seriously embedded non-linux equipment.

   According to my rough notes, µClibc is LGPL, so static linking may not
   be a good idea. Newlib's BSD-like terms seemed more appealing to me.

   http://sources.redhat.com/newlib

   Bill Gatliff wrote an article on it, in the December 2001 issue of
   Embedded Systems Programming.

   There's apparently also dietlibc and sglibc, but I haven't
   investigated either.

Regards,
Erik


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