RTAS on PowerMac Newworld

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RTAS on PowerMac Newworld

From: FASSINO Jean-Philippe <hidden>
Date: 2000-07-25 10:22:50

Hello,

Just a question about RTAS on PowerMac G4,
does linux kernel can call RTAS function ?
And if not, why ?
I'm trying to do it and that fail...

JP


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Re: RTAS on PowerMac Newworld

From: <hidden>
Date: 2000-07-25 11:38:38

FASSINO Jean-Philippe wrote:
Hello,

Just a question about RTAS on PowerMac G4,
does linux kernel can call RTAS function ?
Hi Jean-Philippe,

  You can call RTAS on a PowerMac but I wouldn't do it. From what I understand
Apple doesn't recommend that you make use of RTAS on their hardware.

  On RS/6000 hardware you most certainly can use RTAS.
And if not, why ?
I'm trying to do it and that fail...

JP
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Re: RTAS on PowerMac Newworld

From: Donald Cowart <hidden>
Date: 2000-07-25 11:58:18

Newbie question, what is RTAS?

Donald Cowart  (dcowart@acld.lib.fl.us)
Network Manager
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Gainesville, FL

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com wrote:
FASSINO Jean-Philippe wrote:
quoted
Hello,

Just a question about RTAS on PowerMac G4,
does linux kernel can call RTAS function ?
Hi Jean-Philippe,

  You can call RTAS on a PowerMac but I wouldn't do it. From what I understand
Apple doesn't recommend that you make use of RTAS on their hardware.

  On RS/6000 hardware you most certainly can use RTAS.
quoted
And if not, why ?
I'm trying to do it and that fail...

JP
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Re: RTAS on PowerMac Newworld

From: <hidden>
Date: 2000-07-25 12:00:23

Donald Cowart wrote:
Newbie question, what is RTAS?
RTAS == Run-Time Abstraction Services

In a nutshell an API the OS may utilize to perform various tasks which without
RTAS would be hardware dependant. For example: reading the level on a battery on
a portable, and so on.
Donald Cowart  (dcowart@acld.lib.fl.us)

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Re: RTAS on PowerMac Newworld

From: FASSINO Jean-Philippe <hidden>
Date: 2000-07-25 12:00:56

Donald Cowart wrote:
Newbie question, what is RTAS?
It is the Run-Time Abstraction Services which provide functions
to insulate operating systems from having to know about and manipulating
a number devices. It is a interface between hardware and software.
For example, RTAS provide functions for reading and writing PCI configuration,
shutdown, reboot, get time, managing power, ... of the CHRP computer.

JP


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Re: RTAS on PowerMac Newworld

From: FASSINO Jean-Philippe <hidden>
Date: 2000-07-25 12:08:39

tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com wrote:
  You can call RTAS on a PowerMac but I wouldn't do it. From what I understand
Apple doesn't recommend that you make use of RTAS on their hardware.
Do you know why ?
Because for embedded systems it is very usefull !

JP


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Re: RTAS on PowerMac Newworld

From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <hidden>
Date: 2000-07-25 13:20:28

Just a question about RTAS on PowerMac G4,
does linux kernel can call RTAS function ?
And if not, why ?
I'm trying to do it and that fail...
RTAS in not correctly implemented in those machines. Apple is apparently
abandonning it, the implementation in ROM for all core99 machines is
bogus. What do you want to use RTAS for ?

Ben.


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