Re: Lombard hard freeze (update: mem>64MB)

Well I tried this out too and it didn't work. I got
the same lockup as soon as there was enough kernel
output that it had to scroll the screen up. It moves
all the text up one line and then locks up solid. I
wonder if maybe it's something else.

Can you tell me your exact configuration so I can
duplicate it on my lombard and see if it works? Kernel
args, etc.

So, your machine can boot from a cold state, load
yaboot from OF , boot Linux, and it works fine?

I really have to wonder what the difference is.

Do you have the 400MHz model with the 8MB ATI RAGE LT
Pro? Using atyfb?

--- Seanano <sto9013@ksu.edu> wrote:

  The video initializes fine no matter how I boot
into linux.  I'm running
kernel 2.2.15pre20 rsynced from linuxcare.com.au on
Linuxppc2000.
Currently booting through yaboot 0.5.  I've posted
my current kernel,
System.map, and modules folder on my website at:
  http://www.seanano.org/linux/ppc
Be warned however, that this is not a gerneric
kernel.  I don't have a lot
of options enabled.  There is no ppp support, only
bmac ethernet driver,
only MESH for scsi, so in other words, I wouldn't
use this kernel except
for the lombard.

Sean


On Thu, 11 May 2000, Gabriel Ricard wrote:

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I'm using yaboot too. Does your kernel intialize

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video correctly when you first boot the machine up
from a cold state (as in, it was shutdown, not a
reboot)? I have to go into OF from a cold state,

and

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boot my macos partition just to the point where

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ROM initializes the video with a grey screen,
otherwise, I get this odd lockup when I boot into
Linux. As the kernel messages scroll down the

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its fine until it has to scroll the screen up, it

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locks up when it does that. What kernel, yaboot,

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LinuxPPC (or other distro) version are you using?

--- Seanano <sto9013@ksu.edu> wrote:

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  I've been running a lombard with 192 megs of

RAM

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since it was purchased
without any problem.  I've been running kernels
2.2.14 - 2.2.15-pre20
with almost all of the 2.2.15-preXX kernels

coming

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from the rysnc server
at linuxcare.com.au.  Up until I installed the

9.0.4

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upgrade a few weeks
ago I was using bootX, now I've switched over to
yaboot.  I usually
compile multiple programs at a time and I've

never

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seen any kernel errors
or freezes.  When the kernel boots it shows

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Memory = 192MB.


[seanano@ip35 seanano]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
cpu             : 750
temperature     : 0 C
clock           : 399MHz
revision        : 130.2
bogomips        : 801.18
zero pages      : total 0 (0Kb) current: 0 (0Kb)
hits: 0/261 (0%)
machine         : PowerBook1,1
motherboard     : PowerBook1,1 MacRISC Power
Macintosh
L2 cache        : 1024K unified
memory          : 192MB
pmac-generation : NewWorld


[seanano@ip35 /proc]$ cat /proc/meminfo
        total:    used:    free:  shared:

buffers:

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cached:
Mem:  195981312 50966528 145014784 25296896

3297280

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22179840
Swap: 268427264        0 268427264
MemTotal:    191388 kB
MemFree:     141616 kB
MemShared:    24704 kB
Buffers:       3220 kB
Cached:       21660 kB
SwapTotal:   262136 kB
SwapFree:    262136 kB


  I'd be happy to run some tests if needed.  My
network access on the
lombard is a bit unstable right now so I

couldn't

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download the gnomehack
source...  I should be back to normal in a few

days.

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 I don't even have
gnome installed anyway...


Sean


On Thu, 11 May 2000, Bernhard Reiter wrote:

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On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 11:07:39AM +0200,

Michael

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Schmitz wrote:

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i've done some reasonably big compiles

and

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run seti@home at the same time.

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however i've never kept at it for

excessive

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periods of time...i'll leave a

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kernel make looping tonight building off

an

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nfs disk to the local disk

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and see if anything turns up by

morning...

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I have left my lombard running for 4 days

in a

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row which included several

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sleeps. During this period I did a 6 hour

stint playing with the development

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kernel code and did about 20 makes. No

problems and this was after

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I bumped it
up to 192. I could try building GRASS just

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empirical though.

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Seems there's more people successfully

running

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64M in their Lombard here

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than it first seemed. Someone pointed to the

kernel problem corner, so

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what kernel versions were these success

stories

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run on?

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Yes, we have to gather more data. Than then we

have to seperate

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the problems and search for similiarties and

differences in the

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machines.

There seems to be a significant number of

people

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having this hard freeze

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problem with Lombards. Here is my preliminary

list, if I counted

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correctly:

	Hard Freezes occuring:

Tim Wojtulewicz		Pismo 	128 MB
Bernhard Reiter		Lombard 128,192   2.2.14,

2.2.15pre19

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Gabriel Ricard	    	Lombard 192 MB   + other

problems

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Mario Scarpa	        hard freeze as described?

 64

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MB + other problems

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	Running fine:

jeramy b smith		lombard	192 MB
chris mccraw		lombard 128 MB 		2.2.12 thru

2.2.15pre20

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As I have no idea on how to compare the stress

tests, I can only say

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that in 95% of all my test cases I can trigger

a

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hard freeze within three

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runs of:
	rpm -ba gnomehack.spec
(You can get my src.rpm from:

ftp://intevation.de/users/bernhard/)

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There was one day, when I could run it five

times

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but still a hard

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freeze later.


So we should gather more data on how to

recreate

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the bug and then

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ask more people to try to trigger it. As you

can

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see from my preliminary

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tests, there is no obvious pattern. Maybe we

should also check the

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different lombard models, if there are any.

(At

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least I have a german

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keyboard, e.g.)


Oh and more details from my part:
My RAM test from MacOS was completed fine,

reporting no errors.

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Adding the mem=64M option to the bootup (I am

using bootx, could that

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make a difference too?) seems to make the

system

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more stable so far.

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Jeramy, Chris: can you tell us which kernel

and

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bootprocess you are using?

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	Are you sure that linux uses all the memory?
	Can you build gnomehack three times?


	Bernhard
--
Professional Service around Free Software

      (intevation.net)

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The FreeGIS Project

(freegis.org)

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Association for a Free Informational

Infrastructure            (ffii.org)

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=====
Gabriel Ricard
g_ricard@yahoo.com

=====
Gabriel Ricard
g_ricard@yahoo.com


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