Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

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Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

From: Timo Witte <hidden>
Date: 2021-07-19 00:20:47

The bundesnetzagentur has assigned WiFi 6E frequencies for germany you
this is the
publication of that change:
https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3

Following frequencies have been assigned for general use:
5945 - 6425 Mhz
maximum (200 mW)
No outdoor usage is allowed for 200mW

For "very low power devices" outdoor usage
is allowed, but only with (25 mW)
same frequency range 5945 - 6425

There is no DFS requirement.

Best regards,
Timo

Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

From: Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org>
Date: 2021-07-21 14:29:10

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 02:20:34AM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:

The bundesnetzagentur has assigned WiFi 6E frequencies for germany you
this is the
publication of that change:
https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3

Following frequencies have been assigned for general use:
5945 - 6425 Mhz
maximum (200 mW)
No outdoor usage is allowed for 200mW

For "very low power devices" outdoor usage
is allowed, but only with (25 mW)
same frequency range 5945 - 6425

There is no DFS requirement.

This all matches with my reading of a translated version of the
document. Do you plan to send a patch to add this range? If not, I can
send one.

Thanks,
Seth

Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

From: Timo Witte <hidden>
Date: 2021-07-21 14:55:36

Signed-off-by: Timo Witte <redacted>
---
 db.txt | 10 ++++++++++
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..411b7ac 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt

@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
 # Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
 # Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
 # https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/v>
 country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
        (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

@@ -455,6 +461,10 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
        # short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
        (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+       # WiFi 6E
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
+       # WiFi 6E Short range (Outdoor allowed)
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (25 mW), AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
        # 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
        (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)

-- 
2.31.1

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 4:29 PM Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 02:20:34AM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:
> > The bundesnetzagentur has assigned WiFi 6E frequencies for germany you
> > this is the
> > publication of that change:
> > https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3
> >
> > Following frequencies have been assigned for general use:
> > 5945 - 6425 Mhz
> > maximum (200 mW)
> > No outdoor usage is allowed for 200mW
> >
> > For "very low power devices" outdoor usage
> > is allowed, but only with (25 mW)
> > same frequency range 5945 - 6425
> >
> > There is no DFS requirement.
>
> This all matches with my reading of a translated version of the
> document. Do you plan to send a patch to add this range? If not, I can
> send one.
>
> Thanks,
> Seth

Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

From: Timo Witte <hidden>
Date: 2021-07-21 14:57:17

From f9a99269b00f961e40024632c7b831c615bfa392 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Timo Witte <redacted>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:51:40 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] add wifi6e for germany

Signed-off-by: Timo Witte <redacted>
---
 db.txt | 10 ++++++++++
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..411b7ac 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt

@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
 # Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
 # Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
 # https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
 country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
        (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

@@ -455,6 +461,10 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
        # short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
        (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+       # WiFi 6E
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
+       # WiFi 6E Short range (Outdoor allowed)
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (25 mW), AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
        # 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
        (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)

-- 
2.31.1

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 4:29 PM Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 02:20:34AM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:
> > The bundesnetzagentur has assigned WiFi 6E frequencies for germany you
> > this is the
> > publication of that change:
> > https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=3
> >
> > Following frequencies have been assigned for general use:
> > 5945 - 6425 Mhz
> > maximum (200 mW)
> > No outdoor usage is allowed for 200mW
> >
> > For "very low power devices" outdoor usage
> > is allowed, but only with (25 mW)
> > same frequency range 5945 - 6425
> >
> > There is no DFS requirement.
>
> This all matches with my reading of a translated version of the
> document. Do you plan to send a patch to add this range? If not, I can
> send one.
>
> Thanks,
> Seth

Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

From: Seth Forshee <sforshee@kernel.org>
Date: 2021-07-21 15:27:27

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 04:57:03PM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:

quoted hunk

From f9a99269b00f961e40024632c7b831c615bfa392 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Timo Witte <redacted>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:51:40 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] add wifi6e for germany

Signed-off-by: Timo Witte <redacted>
---
 db.txt | 10 ++++++++++
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..411b7ac 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt

@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
 # Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
 # Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
 # https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
 country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
        (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

@@ -455,6 +461,10 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
        # short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
        (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+       # WiFi 6E
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
+       # WiFi 6E Short range (Outdoor allowed)
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (25 mW), AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

Unfortunately the kernel doesn't support multiple rules for a given
range with differing flags. Currently it is necessary to specify either
the indoor power limit with NO-OUTDOOR or the outdoor power limit, but
not both.

Thanks,
Seth

Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

From: Timo Witte <hidden>
Date: 2021-07-21 15:52:07

Ok then let's just remove the 25mW line.
Here is the new patch:

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..debd878 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt

@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
 # Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
 # Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
 # https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
 country DE: DFS-ETSI
  (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
  (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

@@ -455,6 +461,8 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
  (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
  # short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
  (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+ # WiFi 6E
+ (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
  # 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
  (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:27 PM Seth Forshee [off-list ref] wrote:

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 04:57:03PM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:

quoted

From f9a99269b00f961e40024632c7b831c615bfa392 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Timo Witte <redacted>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:51:40 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] add wifi6e for germany

Signed-off-by: Timo Witte <redacted>
---
 db.txt | 10 ++++++++++
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..411b7ac 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt

@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
 # Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
 # Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
 # https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
 country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
        (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

@@ -455,6 +461,10 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
        # short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
        (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+       # WiFi 6E
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
+       # WiFi 6E Short range (Outdoor allowed)
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (25 mW), AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

Unfortunately the kernel doesn't support multiple rules for a given
range with differing flags. Currently it is necessary to specify either
the indoor power limit with NO-OUTDOOR or the outdoor power limit, but
not both.

Thanks,
Seth

Re: wireless-regdb: Update regulatory rules for Germany (DE) on 6GHz

From: Timo Witte <hidden>
Date: 2021-08-01 01:42:56

Any updates on this Seth?
can we just add the "NO-OUTDOOR" line then as i did in my updated
patch, if the kernel does not support overlapping / identical
frequency ranges with different power limits?

Best regards,
Timo


On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:51 PM Timo Witte [off-list ref] wrote:

quoted hunk

Ok then let's just remove the 25mW line.
Here is the new patch:

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..debd878 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt

@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
 # Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
 # Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
 # https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
 country DE: DFS-ETSI
  (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
  (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

@@ -455,6 +461,8 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
  (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
  # short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
  (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+ # WiFi 6E
+ (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
  # 60 GHz band channels 1-4 (ETSI EN 302 567)
  (57000 - 66000 @ 2160), (40)

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 5:27 PM Seth Forshee [off-list ref] wrote:

quoted

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 04:57:03PM +0200, Timo Witte wrote:

quoted

From f9a99269b00f961e40024632c7b831c615bfa392 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Timo Witte <redacted>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 16:51:40 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] add wifi6e for germany

Signed-off-by: Timo Witte <redacted>
---
 db.txt | 10 ++++++++++
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/db.txt b/db.txt
index 1e5ed03..411b7ac 100644
--- a/db.txt
+++ b/db.txt

@@ -448,6 +448,12 @@ country CZ: DFS-ETSI
 # Bereich 57 GHz - 66 GHz für Funkanwendungen für weitbandige
 # Datenübertragungssysteme; „Multiple Gigabit WAS/RLAN Systems (MGWS)“).
 # https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2011_08_MGWS_pdf.pdf
+#
+# Allocation for the WiFi 6E Band (Allgemeinzuteilung von Frequenzen im
+# Bereich 5945 MHz - 6425 MHz für drahtlose Zugangssysteme,
+# einschließlich lokaler Funknetze WAS/WLAN („Wireless Access Systems
+# including Wireless Local Area Networks“))
+# https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/MobilfunkDectWlanCBFunk/vfg552021WLAN6GHz.pdf
 country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (2400 - 2483.5 @ 40), (100 mW)
        (5150 - 5250 @ 80), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

@@ -455,6 +461,10 @@ country DE: DFS-ETSI
        (5470 - 5725 @ 160), (500 mW), DFS, wmmrule=ETSI
        # short range devices (ETSI EN 300 440-1)
        (5725 - 5875 @ 80), (25 mW)
+       # WiFi 6E
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (200 mW), NO-OUTDOOR, AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI
+       # WiFi 6E Short range (Outdoor allowed)
+       (5945 - 6425 @ 160), (25 mW), AUTO-BW, wmmrule=ETSI

Unfortunately the kernel doesn't support multiple rules for a given
range with differing flags. Currently it is necessary to specify either
the indoor power limit with NO-OUTDOOR or the outdoor power limit, but
not both.

Thanks,
Seth

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